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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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 Does God punish? Yes. For what purpose does He punish?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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Does God punish? Yes. For what purpose does He punish? That sounds like another discussion for those who believe that God punishes. Do you believe that God punishes?
By God's grace,
Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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You first. You said, yes, He punishes. For what purpose?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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You first. You said, yes, He punishes. For what purpose? Why discuss the purpose of an event if it does not occur? It would be like discussing God's purpose in committing sin. Does God punish? Since that is the root of this thread, it is logical to start there.
By God's grace,
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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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START there? (PART 2) LOL
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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Did Jesus PUNISH? That is the place to START.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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Your answers are impressive. They really show the depth of your understanding on this topic. Thanks.
Perhaps another would like to attempt an answer: Does God punish?
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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Your answers are impressive. They really show the depth of your understanding on this topic. Thanks.
Perhaps another would like to attempt an answer: Does God punish? asygo - hint this is PART 2. Read part one. But I know there is no point in telling you my view - again. I will quote again EGW: We are not to regard God as waiting to punish the sinner for his sin. The sinner brings the punishment upon himself. His own actions start a train of circumstances that bring the sure result. Every act of transgression reacts upon the sinner, works in him a change of character, and makes it more easy for him to transgress again. By choosing to sin, men separate themselves from God, cut themselves off from the channel of blessing, and the sure result is ruin and death. {1MR 131.1} So, does God punish? asygo says YES.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does God Punish? (Part 2)
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So, does God punish? asygo says YES. That's right. But I'm not the only one. God has given in His word decisive evidence that He will punish the transgressors of His law. Those who flatter themselves that He is too merciful to execute justice upon the sinner, have only to look to the cross of Calvary. ... And every soul that refuses to become a partaker of the atonement provided at such a cost must bear in his own person the guilt and punishment of transgression. – {GC 539.3} Just because God is not sitting there waiting to punish sinners doesn't mean he won't. All good fathers know that. Someday, if you ever have kids, you will understand what that means. It is time to take off your filter.
By God's grace,
Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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