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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #156165
09/15/13 12:36 PM
09/15/13 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Elle
1. And what is the great and dreadful day of the Lord?

2. And what does it means to "turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers"

1. The DREADFUL Day of he Lord (for the wicked): "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." Mal. 1:1

2. The message of repentance: "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not." (Mat. 17:11-12) Jesus was speaking about John the Baptist who had already come and who testified saying, "I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Isaiah!" John 1:23
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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: James Peterson] #156189
09/15/13 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
1. And what is the great and dreadful day of the Lord?

2. And what does it means to "turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers"

1. The DREADFUL Day of he Lord (for the wicked): "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." Mal. 1:1

2. The message of repentance: "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not." (Mat. 17:11-12) Jesus was speaking about John the Baptist who had already come and who testified saying, "I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Isaiah!" John 1:23
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I'm not getting your point and don't see how this relate to this topic. This is way off topic. If you like to talk about this more in debt, open a seperate discussion.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #156252
09/17/13 12:45 AM
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My Comments: If you go to the link, this article has over a hundred links to the statements made with sources about all these manipulations.

Big Banks Manipulated Gold and Silver Markets

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/big-banks-manipulated-gold-and-silver-markets.html
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Gold and Silver Are Manipulated
The Guardian and Telegraph report that gold and silver prices are “fixed” in the same way as interest rates and derivatives – in daily conference calls by the powers-that-be.

Long-time trader Andrew Maguire told told King World News this week that 2 JP Morgan whistleblowers have handed over evidence of gold and silver manipulation by their bank:

Very recently [Commodities Futures Trading] Commissioner Chilton assured me, and I’m going to quote him exactly, “I can’t appropriately express my frustration and disappointment with how we’ve handled the silver investigation

And, as you know, I’m prohibited from actually saying much. That said, I will not let September go by without speaking out if the agency doesn’t do so.”

***

I was also contacted by two JP Morgan employees who told me they had a large amount of documented evidence of market trading abuses in gold and silver by their bank (JP Morgan). [And they handed it over to the CFTC.]

We’ll have to wait to see if Maguire’s explosive allegations pan out.

As shown below, big banks have manipulated virtually every market – both in the financial sector and the real economy – and broken virtually every law on the books.

Energy Markets Are Manipulated
The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission says that JP Morgan has massively manipulated energy markets in California and the Midwest, obtaining tens of millions of dollars in overpayments from grid operators between September 2010 and June 2011.

Commodities Are Manipulated
The big banks and government agencies have been conspiring to manipulate commodities prices for decades.

The big banks are taking over important aspects of the physical economy, including uranium mining, petroleum products, aluminum, ownership and operation of airports, toll roads, ports, and electricity.

And they are using these physical assets to massively manipulate commodities prices … scalping consumers of many billions of dollars each year.

Interest Rates Are Manipulated
Interest rates are rigged:

■The big banks have conspired for years to rig interest rates … upon which $800 trillion in assets are pegged
■This was the largest insider trading scandal ever … and the largest financial scam in world history
■Local governments got ripped off bigtime by the Libor manipulation
■Libor is still being manipulated

Derivatives Are Manipulated
The big banks have long manipulated derivatives … a $1,200 Trillion Dollar market.

Indeed, many trillions of dollars of derivatives are being manipulated in the exact same same way that interest rates are fixed: through gamed self-reporting.

Currency Markets Are Rigged
Currency markets are massively rigged.

Oil Prices Are Manipulated
Oil prices are manipulated as well.

Everything Can Be Manipulated through High-Frequency Trading
Traders with high-tech computers can manipulate stocks, bonds, options, currencies and commodities. And see this.

Manipulating Numerous Markets In Myriad Ways
The big banks and other giants manipulate numerous markets in myriad ways, for example:

■Engaging in mafia-style big-rigging fraud against local governments. See this, this and this
■Shaving money off of virtually every pension transaction they handled over the course of decades, stealing collectively billions of dollars from pensions worldwide. Details here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here
■Charging “storage fees” to store gold bullion … without even buying or storing any gold . And raiding allocated gold accounts
■Committing massive and pervasive fraud both when they initiated mortgage loans and when they foreclosed on them (and see this)
■Pledging the same mortgage multiple times to different buyers. See this, this, this, this and this. This would be like selling your car, and collecting money from 10 different buyers for the same car
■Cheating homeowners by gaming laws meant to protect people from unfair foreclosure
■Pushing investments which they knew were terrible, and then betting against the same investments to make money for themselves. See this, this, this, this and this
■Engaging in unlawful “frontrunning” to manipulate markets. See this, this, this, this, this and this
■Engaging in unlawful “Wash Trades” to manipulate asset prices. See this, this and this
■Otherwise manipulating markets. And see this
■Participating in various Ponzi schemes. See this, this and this
■Charging veterans unlawful mortgage fees
■Cooking their books (and see this)
■Bribing and bullying ratings agencies to inflate ratings on their risky investments

The Big Picture
The big picture is simple:

■The big banks manipulate every market they touch
■Too much interconnectedness leads to financial instability
■The government has given the banks huge subsidies … which they are using for speculation and other things which don’t help the economy. In other words, propping up the big banks by throwing money at them doesn’t help the economy
■Top economists, financial experts and bankers say that the big banks are too large … and their very size is threatening the economy. They say we need to break up the big banks to stabilize the economy
■The big banks own the D.C. politicians … so Congress and the White House won’t do anything unless the people force change

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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #156284
09/17/13 02:53 PM
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Good thing I didn't get suckered into buying gold silver! As some so promoted it.

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #156359
09/19/13 04:35 PM
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JPMorgan To Pay $920 Million In Penalties For 'Whale' Losses

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/jpmorgan-london-whale-fine_n_3953435.html
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JPMorgan Chase, the nation's largest bank by assets, will pay $920 million in penalties related to its 'London Whale' trading fiasco, which cost the bank $6.2 billion in losses earlier this year. The bank is admitting to violating federal securities law as part of the settlement, according to Bloomberg.

--- More from Reuters:

(Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase & Co will pay $920 million in penalties in two countries to settle some of its potential liabilities from its "London Whale" derivatives trading losses last year, according to terms made public by regulators on Thursday.

The penalties include $300 million to the U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, $200 million to the Federal Reserve, $200 million to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and 137.6 million pounds ($219.74 million) to the UK's Financial Conduct Authority.

The regulators' citations focus on failures in risk management and financial reporting systems. The biggest U.S. bank was also cited for failing to tell its board of directors and regulators about deficiencies in its risk management systems that had been identified by management.

The settlements are a major milestone in the drive by JPMorgan Chief Executive Jamie Dimon to resolve legal issues weighing on the bank, but leave unresolved a probe by U.S. prosecutors into the derivatives debacle. The "London Whale" derivatives losses last year totaled $6.2 billion.

Dimon, in a statement issued by the company, said, "We have accepted responsibility and acknowledged our mistakes from the start, and we have learned from them and worked to fix them."

Bruno Iksil, the trader whose large bets earned him the nickname "London Whale," has signed a cooperation agreement with prosecutors and has not been charged with any wrongdoing.


JPMorgan also faces other investigations into areas that include possible bribery in hiring practices in China and potentially fraudulent sales of mortgage securities.

JPMorgan has been under intense scrutiny from the U.S. government since May 2012, when Dimon disclosed that the firm was losing billions of dollars on derivatives deals that had been questioned a month earlier in press reports.

Dimon initially criticized those reports as a "tempest in a teapot." He has repeatedly apologized for that remark and said the bank was "stupid" in handling the trades from a London desk of the bank's Chief Investment Office.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #156360
09/19/13 04:52 PM
09/19/13 04:52 PM
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My comments : pictures provided at the link.

NEIL KEENAN UPDATE: KEENAN GOES INTO THE LION’S DEN - MEETS WITH CABAL CHIEFTAIN – REVEALS HIS OWN FINANCIAL DOOMSDAY WEAPONS AGAINST THE CABAL – KEENAN SOUNDS THE CHARGE
http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/09/17...nds-the-charge/
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Ø “We’re being played…they are pulling a back door trick, while lulling us into thinking they’re defeated.”

Ø Cabal pulling off massive gold theft in Indonesia – melting, recasting, and fraudulent re-stamping – as they attempt to hijack the assets and move them to the West

Ø Keenan reveals his own Financial Doomsday Weapons against Cabal – see them for yourself

Ø Cabal admits genocidal plans against humanity – claims to want a way out

Ø Cabal families at each other’s throats – who will cut a deal? And will the world allow a deal to be made once the truth is known?

Ø Rothschilds blame Vatican, Rockefellers hunt Rothschilds, Bushes blame everybody – while still trying to start a global war

Ø Keenan demands end to Monsanto, Chem-trails operations aimed at mass murder

Ø World Court forming to bring the cabal to justice, as Keenan reveals the Black Book, The Book of Maklumat, The Book of Conveyance, and an original of the Green Hilton Memorial Agreement.

by Michael Henry Dunn

September 17, 2013 – Neil F. Keenan is done rattling the saber – he’s pulling the sword from the scabbard and preparing to use it. He has caught the banker-bloodline corrupt cabal red-handed in one last desperate attempt to hijack the wealth of the nations and to reassert their murderous dominance over our planet. As powerful new allies have flocked to Keenan’s banner in recent weeks, Keenan has pulled the veil from the cabal’s most cunning deceptions. We have been told they are nearly defeated – they are not. We have been led to believe the Accounts are almost back in the hands of the rightful depositors – while the cabal mounts a massive theft of the assets. Our bloggers and freedom fighters have told us we are almost there – while the plans for genocide proceed unstopped. In a series of extraordinary meetings this week, Neil Keenan confronted one of the dark sect’s top chieftains in a face-to-face showdown in the heart of the cabal’s lair. A series of talks with European leaders followed as the battle to defeat the enemies of humanity moves into what looks to be its climactic phase.

Keenan is done with words – he reveals in an extraordinary video the ultimate “Financial Doomsday” weapons in his possession – and warns that the time has finally come to use them.

Keenan warns the world that we cannot take our liberty – or even our survival – for granted in the face of this final move by the cabal. This dark Luciferian sect did not exert pervasive dominance over our planet for these past centuries by giving up easily, or by honoring a single agreement they ever made. They are masters of cunning deception – layer upon layer, web upon web – and history is littered with the corpses of those who thought they had them defeated, only to feel the knife in their backs even as they toasted their own illusive victory. Those who believed the cabal-infiltrated Freemasons would never rise again in America after their dark nature had been revealed in the 1830’s – after thousands of appalled Americans had resigned from the Masonic movement when its twisted designs were revealed by a member (who paid with his life) – they were astonished to find that the movement quietly reappeared in greater numbers in the years following the Civil War, as the Rothschilds’ remorseless plans for the destruction of American freedom moved into overdrive. “I would sooner have believed that slavery itself would revive in America than we would ever see the Freemasons return to power,” said one dismayed enemy of the cabal.

Like a horror movie demon, the ghouls of the Illuminati wait until their victims are complacently secure in their conviction that the evil is destroyed before springing upon their sleeping prey.

Overly dramatic? No. Merely the verdict of history. And Neil Keenan and his allies are determined to make sure it doesn’t happen one more time. It is now or never. And the weapons he has long held back he is now ready to use.

The Black Book in Keenan’s possession documents every fraudulent transaction, every theft, every account movement, every withdrawal made by the hardened criminals at the uppermost tiers of the oligarchy, going back decades. Every time one of them opens “the black screens” it is like a fingerprint, and the money is traced. Their names, their crimes can be revealed to all. These are Financial Doomsday weapons, and their exposure will have unpredictable consequences – but faced with the imminent return-from-the-dead of the cabal’s plans to murder billions of human beings, Keenan is now revealing them to the world. The documents are already in the hands of journalists, of lawyers, in multiple secure locations throughout the world, ready to be released.

Meanwhile, Keenan reveals information regarding the ongoing theft of Global Account gold from Indonesia by the Cabal.

The Elders have guarded the assets for decades without being compensated according to agreement. That has left them vulnerable to bribery – or to coercion where bribery fails. For years it was American General Rosier stealing massive amounts of gold, and today the name of Lt. General Loren M.Reno has surfaced as the new thief. Now Bush family henchman Richard Armitage is working with General Lorin to continue the cabal’s proud tradition of shameless plundering. Planeloads full of gold are leaving Indonesia for Hong Kong, where it is melted down, whereupon new bars are created with phony stamps, ready for shipping out to the West.

Keenan dared to venture into the heart of the cabal’s lair to meet with a notorious cabal bloodline chieftain (his nobler titles are a sham – a crime syndicate boss should be called by his right name). All very civilized, of course. Cordial conversations over dinner as Keenan revealed his knowledge of their last cunning devices and called them out on their genocidal operations.

“I’m going into the lion’s den,” he informed this writer. “But I’m bringing some catnip with me.”

Keenan is still Keenan.

He called them out on Monsanto. He called them out on chemtrails. He called them out on genocide. And he warned them that it must all stop now. In the extraordinary video accompanying this article, Keenan reveals that the families at the top of the banking system are looking for a way out. They know they are vulnerable. They have believed that they can survive because they control the world banking system – and who can operate without them? This has been their trump card – while they have calmly proceeded with their plans to mercilessly slaughter billions of human beings. Now they say they too want to see the Cabal come to an end.

Of course, they are the Cabal. But there are factions within factions, and the leading families are at each other’s throats. The American cabal families are still going full tilt for global war, and word has it that the European banking families are in danger of their lives from the Bushes and Rockefellers. One thing is certain – the ten leading financiers (with the “chieftain” at the table) who sat down with Neil Keenan in a certain banking capital last week would have us believe that they do not think of themselves as the cabal…and that they know the cabal is finished.

The Vatican is evil and cannot be trusted. Who says so? Why, the cabal, of course – they’re reportedly very upset with how they’ve been misled by Rome. Those nasty Vatican boys lied to our dear honest bankers? How appalling! Honor among thieves…you reap what you sow, gentlemen. You might try looking that up in the good book – along with “thou shalt not kill” and “thou shalt not steal.”

Keenan emerged from his confrontation to warn us all: we must take back the keys to the kingdom – don’t let the Vatican retake control, or we’re in for a hundred years of hell.

Neither side can be trusted. We must see actions. The Accounts must be freed. The chemtrails must end. Monsanto and HAARP must be dismantled.

And the truth of who they are and what they’ve done must be told to the world.

Their day is done. The world is awake. And they will be brought to justice. They have believed that we are the sheep and they are the wolves. We are reclaiming our freedom.

The new international security force, the soon-to-be-completed World Court of Human Rights, the 178-nation consortium, all are now aligned to prevent this last back-door crime from turning victory into defeat. But time is short. We must act now.

The extraordinary video attached to this article should be immediately distributed throughout the world. Reblog it, Skype it, Facebook it, e-mail it, Twitter it, turn it into a hundred million hits on Youtube. Nothing less than humanity’s survival is at stake.

More enormously important news is imminent. Crucial updates will follow in the coming days.

Only our silence, only our complacency allows them to win. Only our raised voices, only our united determination ensures our freedom. Wake up now!

I will close with a direct quote from Neil Keenan:

“Let those who hold secrets release them so they may be heard. Let everyone stand and let it be known they are not sitting down any longer, that they value the liberty and safety of their families because this is what is at stake. We must let it be known to the Cabal that we know what they are up to and that we have our little birdies singing to us now telling us it is time for them to say goodbye….All the Elite take a hike…..Hit the road Jack and don’t you come back no more!”

Michael Henry Dunn





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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #156922
10/07/13 05:45 PM
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An important message from former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer

My comment: There's not that much info regarding the Canadian Banking situation but just viewed this really good message from a retired Canadian Defense Minister who is the longest serving member of the Canadian privy council. He has a very good and important message for all Canadian how to stop this austerity and slavery to the current system. I don't know if they are legit and if they are really out to do what they say they are aiming to do. This would require some investigation to determine.

However, if you go to their website http://www.victoryfortheworld.net/ there are lots of information for the Canadian Banking system and Federal laws that can be checked and would be helpful to inform us of what is going on.

Here's is what Paul & this group alarming message to all Canadian is saying :
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URGENT! URGENT!
OTTAWA INTENDS TO SIGN A TREATY WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION THAT WILL COMPROMISE PARLIAMENT'S ABSOLUTE POWER OVER MONEY AND BANKING. THE TREATY WOULD TIE US TO THE KIND OF PERPETUAL AUSTERITY THAT THREATENS EUROPE. TO SIGN IT WOULD BE AN ACT OF TREASON!

THE COMMITTEE ON MONETARY AND ECONOMIC REFORM (COMER) IS ASKING FOR AN INJUNCTION TO PREVENT THIS BETRAYAL OF OUR NATIONAL INTEREST. BUT WE NEED $90,000 FOR THE FIRST ROUND. HELP US GUARD THE POWER ESSENTIAL TO OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE. CONTRIBUTE NOW.


AN OPEN LETTER TO FINANCE MINISTER FLAHERTY

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We, the undersigned, firmly believe that 2015 is far too late to balance the federal budget. Powerful stimulus is essential now, to revive the economy and get it running on all cylinders. All that is necessary is to use the power given to you by the Canadian Constitution. There is a precedent.

From 1939 to 1974 the Bank of Canada provided the Canadian government with large sums of money at near zero cost. This got us out of the Great Depression, helped finance World War II, and many great post-war projects like the St. Lawrence Seaway and the Trans-Canada highway, as well as contributing to the establishment of our Medicare and social security systems which were the envy of the world.

All was well until 1974 when, without government approval, the Bank of Canada abandoned its shareholders, the Canadian people, and adopted the rules of the Bank for International Settlements. The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is the de facto headquarters of the international banking cartel, a club of immensely rich con artists who have persuaded kings, queens, emperors and politicians to give them licenses to lend the same money to 15 or 20 different individuals, companies, or governments simultaneously, and collect interest from each one of them – a global fraud without equal.

This international Ponzi scheme has been so successful that big banks now control the ultimate destiny of trillions of dollars in assets which they acquired with virtual (debt) money that isn’t worth more than about five cents on the dollar – not much more than monopoly money.

Since the Bank of Canada joined the BIS club in 1974 it’s been all downhill for the Canadian economy. In 1974 there were no food banks in Canada. Today there are 1,921, and the need is still growing. Then, Medicare was well funded and tuition rates were low. Now there are long waiting lists for elective surgery, and tuition fees are far too high.

This decline in our welfare since 1974 is the direct result of the Bank of Canada adopting two BIS edicts. First the adoption of the ideas of Milton Friedman, especially monetarism. Second, the Bank of Canada agreed to stop providing the federal government with low-cost money as it had been doing for 35 years. Instead, the government has had to borrow in the market and pay as much as 20% interest.

The first of these decisions resulted in using high interest rates, which are the clumsiest of all possible tools to fight inflation. The terrible recessions of 1981-82 and 1990-91, that created both social and economic chaos proved that the cure was far more dreadful than the disease.

The Bank of Canada’s second decision to stop providing low-cost money has resulted in monstrous increases in government debt at all levels. Between 1974/75 and 2010/11 Canadian taxpayers paid 1 trillion, l00 billion dollars interest on the federal debt alone – more than $2,000 each year for every man and woman in the workforce – and all of it unnecessary. And the debt remains. There is no way to pay it off!

The system is broken! John Maynard Keynes and Milton Friedman both erred when they assumed it was self-regulating. It has to be managed by governments on behalf of all the people. Our government has to use its sovereign power to liberate us from being slaves to debt.

We therefore demand that you table your austerity budget – an idea that was tried in the 1930s and failed miserably – and adopt a new deal for Canadians. So that you will know exactly what we mean and want, we have spelled it out for you as follows.

A SOCIAL CONTRACT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT
AND PEOPLE OF CANADA

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In view of the fact that our present banking and financial system is unstable, unsustainable and basically immoral, we the undersigned, on behalf of all Canadians, demand that the federal government use its constitutional power over all matters pertaining to money and banking by forthwith taking the following action to benefit all Canadians.

1. The government of Canada should print fifteen non-transferable, non-convertible, non-redeemable $10 billion nominal value Canada share certificates.

2. Simultaneously the Justice Department should be asked for a legal opinion as to whether the share certificates qualify as collateral under the Bank of Canada Act. If not, legislation should be introduced to amend the Act to specify their eligibility.

3. The government should then present the share certificates to the Bank of Canada that would forthwith book the certificates as assets against the liability of the cash created, and deposit $150 billion in the government’s bank accounts. The federal government should immediately transfer $75 billion to the various provinces and territories in amounts proportional to their population, with the understanding that they would help the municipalities, as appropriate, so there would be no need to cut back on essential services, or sell valuable assets.

4. Amend the Bank Act to reverse the 1991 amendments that eliminated the requirement for the Canadian chartered banks to maintain cash reserves against their deposits and provide the Minister of Finance, or someone acting on his or her behalf, the power to set the level of cash reserves for banks and other deposit taking institutions up to a maximum of 34%, provided the increase, beginning in fiscal year 2013/14 is not less than 5% per annum until the new 34% base has been established in 7 years. This will ensure that there will be no inflation resulting from the government-created money.

5. Repeat the action prescribed in Sections 1 and 3 above in accordance with the following schedule. (a) 2014/15 $150 billion of government-created money (GCM); (b) 2015/16, $150 billion GCM; (c) 2016/17, $125 billion GCM; (d) 2017/18, $125 billion GCM; (e) 2018/19, 50% of the estimated increase in GCM to bring bank reserves up to 34% by the end of fiscal year 2019/20 (likely to be an amount greater than $100 billion); (f) 2019/20 the remaining amount of GCM to increase bank reserves to 34% (again likely to exceed $100 billion).

6. In each fiscal year following 2019/20 the amount of GCM spent into circulation will be 34% of the desired increase in monetary expansion for that year with the remaining 66% to be the prerogative of the chartered banks.

N.B. The great advantage of changing the system over a 7 year period is to allow all levels of government the certainty of a cash flow adequate to complete projects once begun, and to facilitate a smooth transition to the new stable and sustainable system.

7. After a year or two of robust economic growth, as tax revenues begin to rise, the amount of GCM created during the transitional period should exceed prudent budgetary requirements, so governments at all levels should take advantage of the opportunity to pay off significant amounts of their outstanding debt. It is estimated that the federal government could reduce its net debt by as much as one-third, providing further relief to hard-pressed taxpayers.

8. We demand that the parliament and government of Canada implement items 1 to 4 above not later than midnight May 10, 2013 in order that the economic benefits will begin for students seeking employment.

9. We believe these actions to be so essential for the future welfare of the majority of Canadians, and as a precedent for other struggling countries, that should parliament and the government fail to meet the deadline above we will feel duty bound to adopt such peaceful measures as are within our power to guarantee that the 99% of Canadians on the lower end of the income scale are not shortchanged one more time.

Yours respectfully,

Jerry Ackerman, Paul Amodeo, Erik Andersen, Carol Bailey, David Banerjee, André Bernier, Erick Bittschwam, George Crowell, Arestia Dehmassi, Derrel Dular, Ann Emmett, Helen Ferreira, Connie Fogal, Claire Foss, Sarah Harrington, Paul Hellyer, William Krehm, Christopher Lambe, Chris Lang, Judy Lewis, John McMurtry, Dennis Morrison, David Patrick, Richard Priestman, Susan Rawley, Hon. Alan Redway, Hugh Reilly, John Riddell, Sarah Sackville-McLauchlan, Michael Sinclair, Derek Skinner, Myra Sonnichsen, Victor Viggiani, Andrew Ward, Sydney White, Keith Wilde, Pierre Zgheib

Contacts: Jerry Ackerman (613/375-8256); Ann Emmett (416/654-3499); or Paul Hellyer (416/850-1375).


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #156923
10/07/13 06:29 PM
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Matthew 6:19-34 AKJV
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust does corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust does corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore your eye be single, your whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if your eye be evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
25 Therefore I say to you, Take no thought for your life, what you shall eat, or what you shall drink; nor yet for your body, what you shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit to his stature?
28 And why take you thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say to you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Why, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knows that you have need of all these things.
33 But seek you first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added to you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: APL] #156942
10/08/13 01:43 PM
10/08/13 01:43 PM
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APL, this discussion is not about gathering wealth on earth. You must of mist this post#152153 the last on Page 17 the following :
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
I thought you were promoting gold as the ultimate investment rather than as one which would end. Now it's silver. What will it be next?

I'm not promoting buying gold or silver...I'm giving a heads up to those who can hear and have savings and retirement funds to re-invest their savings into something that will retain its value before the current Babylonian system crashes completly. Gold or silver is one way to retain your savings value or it can be buying land or whatever the Lord moves you to do. Now with what happened to the market the last 2 weeks, gold and silver is currently very scarce and hard to find in quantity. So alternative investment sources might be the other option left.

The main idea is Babylon is falling...get out of her!. Of course we know of this with an spiritual dimension however it also has an economical application too!

Regardless if you have any savings, or have lossed all your savings, .... there's nothing to fret about for the next kingdom [the Everlasting Stone Kingdom that will grow to cover the whole earth of Daniel 2 ] will be far superior to any of the ancient beastly kingdoms. For sure those that has lost much money during the crash will have to deal with that lost and the fact they ignored all the signs arounds, but once they overcome this bitterness they will be able to rejoice with the others.

This discussion goal is to keep track of the news events of the fall of the current Economical System aka "Mystery Babylon" and the restructuring of the new system.

I would like to add to this comment that we are called to be children of light. We have prophecies and the Spirit of the Lord at our disposal to lead us into an understanding of what is currently happening in this world. The Lord wants us to be aware and watch His handywork in action to come into deeper understanding of how He works and applies His laws & prophecies as the events unfold. That is one of the goal of the prophecies given to us in advance before He acts.

We all know the end of the story that the Lord will be victorious and His Kingdom will be given to His Saints who will rule with Him during the Millenium (Dn 2 & 7; Rev 5:10; Rev 20:4; etc...)after the fall of Babylon. However most people around don't and are taking by fear and uncertainty of a futur. So we are to share this light of hope with them in telligently by showing scriptures and how it relates to the events today.

It's almost two years I have started this discussion. And it is very sad to see that not even one person came forth to join this discussion and tried to understand the works of the Lord. That's pretty shocking considering we claim to be the church to sound the 3 angels message that pivots around the fall of Babylon. All who came here came to try to discourage discussion as you have done APL. However that's ok and I'm not going to shy away to collect information that I'm impress to post here pertaining to this historical climax of the coming fall of Babylon. It would of been wonderful that others would of contributed; but it is not expected.

I am encouraged to the fact that this discussion is highly read having of today nearly 62,000 views. The discussion was hardly read at the beginning, but after 8 months or so, the weekly rate was increasing. Currently, it is read at the rate of over 1000 views per week. When I was posting more news(as I have slowed down this summer and being more selective), this discussion had aprox. a rate of 2000 views per week. So by the consistent viewing hi-rate, I see that some people value the news posted here to the point of coming back to read any further news.

Even if there wasn't any hi viewing rate, I still would post here as it is a great way to compile these important world events for futur references.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #156943
10/08/13 02:34 PM
10/08/13 02:34 PM
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Government Shutdown
I really don't understand much about the US Government shutdown and haven't posted anything I found that was very informative.

Stephen Jones comments was the following :
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The US budget deficit runs over 40% of revenues, so when the government cannot agree to raise the debt limit, government spending drops by the amount of the deficit. This means a partial shutdown of government operations. What we are witnessing is the type of government we would have if it actually lived within its means with a balanced budget.

That is what is happening now. The problem is made worse, however, because the Obama administration has given orders to make this shutdown as painful as possible, knowing that the Republicans will be blamed for the shutdown. So they have closed parks which require no personnel to guard, oversee, or maintain--and hence, cost nothing to keep open. Such as the WW2 Veterans Memorial Park in Washington.

Congress, dominated by Republicans, did its job by passing a budget. The Senate, dominated by Democrats, turned it down, forcing the government to shut down. Blame is laid, depending on one's partisan viewpoint.

It seems quite possible that this will prove to be the end of Babylon as we know it.
...beginning in the summer of 2007 with the subprime mortgage crisis.

So we now find ourselves seven years later with still no economic recovery. The system has been on massive life-support for seven years, kept alive only by massive monetary drug infusions into Uncle Sam's veins and an iron lung to keep him breathing. The vast increase in the money supply (and hence, the debt) has not solved the foundational issues inherent in the fiat money system of Mystery Babylon. The Fed's "solutions" have only postponed the problem and made the collapse worse when it finally happens.

I wonder if this present crisis will be used to steal the rest of the retirement funds that have not already been stolen. Oh, no, these funds are not really stolen. The thief put an IOU in the strongbox after taking the money. So technically, it was just a forced loan. But when the thief defaults on the loan, the retirement funds are the ones who lose their money.

The danger that we face today is a default on the Treasury Bonds that come due October 17...Whatever happens, it is clear that the government shutdown and the looming fiscal crisis on October 17 may well turn into a major event. While many think that congress will come to some kind of agreement with the white house and avert a default on the bonds, the timing of this makes me think that we will indeed default.

If that happens, watch for another major stock market crash. Some are predicting a drop of 4,000 points this month. It is a virtual certainty that if the default occurs, then the market will crash heavily. So be watchful.


Also I thought Peter Shiff comments was informative (start at the 2:30 min marking). I typically don't watch Alex Jones as I find him focussing on fear too much. However, he does collect a lot of information by which some are true. Anyway with anything, we need to use discernment with what we know about the Lord's ability to intervene in these things and having His own agenda.


Also this news article in European Union Times saying the Pentagon saying that Obama will possibly be exerting his executive privilege of dictatorship and will declare some states to be against the government and a lot more.

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/10/pentagon-warns-to-expect-radical-change-in-us-government-soon/

Pentagon Warns To Expect “Radical” Change In US Government Soon
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A highly troubling “urgent bulletin” issued earlier today by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) states that it has received information from the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) warning to expect a “radical change” in the government of the United States, possibly within the next fortnight, based on information they have received from “highly placed” sources within the Pentagon.

According to this MoFA bulletin, GRU intelligence assests were notified by their Pentagon counterparts this past week that President Barack Obama is preparing to invoke the powers given to him under 50 USC Chapter 13 to hold that various American States are now in a “state of insurrection” thus allowing him to invoke the National Emergencies Act under 50 USC § 1621 and invoke the highly controversial “continuity of government” plan for the United States allowing him, in essence, to rule with supreme powers.

Specifically, this bulletin says, Obama will invoke 50 USC § 212 that states: “ the President shall have declared by proclamation that the laws of the United States are opposed, and the execution thereof obstructed, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings”

The specific laws being opposed by these “combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings,” that Obama will outline in his reasoning’s for declaring a state of emergency, this bulletin continues, are the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), otherwise known as Obamacare.

The NDAA is opposed by many US States, this bulletin says, with California joining Alaska and Virginia this past week in passing a law making it illegal to be enforced in their territory, and with many other States, also, preparing to do the same.

The specific portions of the NDAA law being opposed by these US States allows for the indefinite detention without charges or trial of all American citizens and allows for their assassination should Obama order it.

The PPACA (Obamacare) law is, likewise, opposed by over half of the US States and has led to an American “shutdown” this past week that has closed 15% of their government, but has left fully 85% of it still open.

To the specific “combinations too powerful” Obama will cite in his declaration of National Emergency as being needed to be defeated by extraordinary measures, the MoFA says, is a faction of the US House of Representatives popularly known as the Republican Tea Party whom the President and his allies have likened to “hostage takers” and “political terrorists.”

Obama’s greatest fear, and reason(s) for declaring a National State of Emergency, this bulletin continues, was outlined yesterday by his US Treasury Department who released a report yesterday warning of potentially “catastrophic” damage should Congress fail to raise the debt ceiling and prevent the government from defaulting on its debt.

As the current US government shutdown crisis and debt ceiling fight have now merged, the MoFA warns in this bulletin, Obama further warned yesterday that an impasse on the debt ceiling beyond 17 October, when the US government will be essentially out of cash to pay its bills, could start a downward economic plunge worse than the recession of five years ago – with credit markets seizing up, the dollar’s value plummeting and US interest rates soaring and even coming close to the brink of such an unprecedented default that could roil both domestic and foreign financial markets.

Preparing to oppose Obama, should he, in fact, declare a National State of Emergency, the GRU grimly warns, is the US military who themselves are preparing to invoke 50 USC § 842 which allows them to protect America from “The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof…”

Not known to many Americans is that the Progressive movement Obama belongs to, and whose media acolyte “presstitutes” swept into office, have long been associated with the Communist Party.

And, as the World Net Daily News Service reported this past August, John C. Drew, Ph.D., the award-winning political scientist, met Obama in 1980 and wrote in 2011: “[Obama] believed that the economic stresses of the Carter years meant revolution was still imminent. The election of Reagan was simply a minor set-back in terms of the coming revolution. … Obama was blindly sticking to the simple Marxist theory … ‘there’s going to be a revolution.’ Obama said, ‘we need to be organized and grow the movement.’ In Obama’s view, our role must be to educate others so that we might usher in more quickly this inevitable revolution.”

With Obama’s “revolution” now at hand, the GRU warns in this bulletin, it is critical to note that that United States, unlike other nations, have all of their elected officials and military personal swear allegiance to the US Constitution, and not to their government or its leaders.

The most recent example of this conflict between Obama and the US military, the GRU further states, was in Egypt when the Obama regime supported Muslim Brotherhood was overthrown by the Pentagon backed Egyptian military, and who, like the United States, makes its political and military leaders swear allegiance to their constitution, not to any of its leaders.

As many in America now know that these present times are not the normal activities of a government seeking peace and prosperity, and as dozens of undisclosed Obama Presidential directives that define US national security policy and task government agencies are still unknown either to the public or, as a rule, to the US Congress, this bulletin warns in its summation that with each passing day American can be more likened to a communist dictatorship than a functioning democracy.

So bad, in fact, has the United States become that one of its legendary reporters, Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh wrote this past week that the Obama administration lies systematically yet none of the leviathans of American media, the TV networks or big print titles, challenge him.

Even worse, and in a further Sovietization of American Life by the Obama regime, the US this past week refused to grant entry visas to internationally renowned authors Ilija Trojanov and Ernst Titovets who were invited to speak at conferences, and which Justin Raimondo of the highly respected Antiwar.com blog calls “part of a disturbing pattern of repression that all points to one ineluctable conclusion: the United States is the Soviet Union of the new millennium – an ideological state with global ambitions that holds itself up as the epitome of “freedom” and yet is the single most powerful enemy of liberty worldwide.”


And the last piece of information pertaining to this event is that there are many groups in the US planning to go to Washington starting Friday Oct 11th in the mind to arrest Obama and any others in the government who are traiters of the constitution. They expect over a million truckers blocking the roads. Then I heard there was the oathkeapers groups, and the militia groups, and I wouldn't be suprise the bikers will show up also who on Sept 11 over a million have come to Washington DC. to make a statement of some sort that they are organized, aware, and watching.

Below is the youtube viral video going around to rally the truckers for the constitution.

Let us pray together that the Lord's will be establish on earth in these coming events as they are climaxing. I would advise everyone to make some sort of preparation with food and water and whatever necessity you may need in the case something major happen that will temporarily freeze up supplies. Also think of preparing to help your neighbors.


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