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Re: P O R K [Re: Mountain Man] #118054
08/23/09 11:14 PM
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Here is an interesting statement from Inspiration, regarding pork: "Among the viands placed before the king were swine's flesh and other meats which were declared unclean by the law of Moses, and which the Hebrews had been expressly forbidden to eat. Here Daniel was brought to a severe test. Should he adhere to the teachings of his fathers concerning meats and drinks, and offend the king, and probably lose not only his position but his life? or should he disregard the commandment of the Lord, and retain the favor of the king, thus securing great intellectual advantages and the most flattering worldly prospects?

"Daniel did not long hesiate. He decided to stand firm in his integrity, let the result be what it might. He 'purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine whch he drank.' Dan. 1:8." --Ellen White, The Sanctified Life, p. 19.

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Re: P O R K [Re: Mountain Man] #118074
08/24/09 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Pork isn't the only thing that tastes good in spite of its bad looks and smells. For example, fish. Ever seen fish hanging in the market dripping with blood, eyes bulging, and covered with flies? And the stench. Pew-wee! And yet Jesus ate it with His disciples after His resurrection. But, hey, I doubt Jesus would eat it nowadays, eh! I think He would serve tofu instead.
There is a marked difference between fresh caught fish and the fly covered fish you saw in the market.


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21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: P O R K [Re: vastergotland] #118130
08/25/09 04:40 PM
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Thomas, I have done a lot fishing over the years (not that I'm old enough to officially say "over the years") and it doesn't take long for the wasps and flies to cover your catch. But I think your point is valid. I'd much rather eat fish that hasn't been covered by flies hanging in the open market.

Re: P O R K [Re: Mountain Man] #118166
08/25/09 09:26 PM
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What would the official age of "over the years" be?


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: P O R K [Re: vastergotland] #118198
08/26/09 04:52 PM
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At least 10 years older than my age at any given time. thumbsup

Re: P O R K [Re: Mountain Man] #118204
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Another example of waste, etc. tasting good: While I'm not around young kids nowadays, I can remember when it was not unusual to see a runny nose youngster with his/her tongue out licking the stuff. Gross!

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Re: P O R K [Re: Mountain Man] #118208
08/26/09 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
At least 10 years older than my age at any given time. thumbsup
Thats a good enough definition. ROFL


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: P O R K [Re: vastergotland] #118212
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Suzanne, thank you for sharing information verifying the validity of God's prohibition against eating pork. Also, you're right, kids licking snot and eating boogers is gross. And yet we pick them up and hug and kiss them anyhow. Now that's true love. I must confess, though, that I'm glad my kids don't do it any more, although, now my grandchildren are doing it.
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Re: P O R K [Re: Mountain Man] #122334
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Superbug Suspected of Infecting People Eating Pork

British people have been infected for the first time by an animal variant of MRSA, the hospital superbug that infects more than 4,000 patients a year. Scientists revealed that 3 patients in separate hospitals were infected with the ST398 strain, which is found in factory-farmed pigs in the Netherlands. None of the humans had a close association with farm animals, raising the possibility that the superbug has entered the food chain.

Most cases of the ST398 strain have been spread to people in close contact with animals such as farmers, vets and abattoir workers, but cooks may be infected if bacteria on their hands entered a cut or a wound.

MRSA has been found in pigs in the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium and Germany and in other farm animals such as chickens and cattle. The strain--which has caused skin infections and rare heart and bone problems in humans--is believed to have spread among pigs that were fed antibiotics to spur growth and protect them from disease. A survey by the Dutch authorities in 2006 found traces of the bug in 20% of pork products, 21% of chicken meat and 3% of beef.

No cases have been found in UK livestock but the Soil Association called for Britain to start testing meat because 2/3 of Britain's pork is imported from Holland. Professor Richard James, of the Centre for Healthcare Associated Infections at Nottingham University, backed the call. "It is a concern. We need people testing pork to see if it's there," he warned.

All three patients, who were being treated in at least 2 different Scottish hospitals, recovered. Confirming the cases, Dr. Giles Edwards, director of the Scottish MRSA Reference Laboratory, said: "A lot of the patients who got this infection in Holland and Canada have been people who work with animals, such as farmers and vets. But none of the 3 individuals in Scotland have been in contact with animals, not that we could find."

The Soil Association called on the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs to publish interim results of its teating for MRSA in pigs. "We suspect that MRSA has now been found in British pigs," said the policy adviser, Richard Young.

"ST398 is no more serious than existing strains of MRSA, but it is resistant to different antibiotics, and where it is present it will make it harder for doctors to select an effective drug quickly. In some cases, that could be the difference between life and death." --EarthSave News, June 2008.

Suzanne



Re: P O R K [Re: Suzanne] #159142
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Was the Bible correct that pork is truly an unclean meat?

by Dr. David Jockers

(NaturalNews) The Hebrew people have avoided pork and pig products as a dietary principle discussed in the Bible. Leviticus clearly states that pigs, because they do not chew their cud, are an unclean meat. Modern science has shown that pigs carry a very high toxic load making them unsafe for human consumption.

"And the pig, though it has a divided hoof, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you." Leviticus 11:7.

The Bible warns the Hebrews about unclean foods and the rationale for the uncleanliness. Pigs are dirty animals that ruthlessly scavenge anything they come into contact with on the farm. Not only are they known to consume food scraps, insects and their own feces, but they will also cannibalistically eat their own dead carcasses. They have been known to kill and eat their young at times as well.

Due to their scavenger lifestyle, they harbor enormous amounts of viruses and parasites. Pigs are known to be primary carriers of the following pathogenic organisms, which can create very serious health problems:

Taenia solium tapeworm
PRRS (Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome)
Nipah virus
Menangle virus
Hepatitis E virus (HEV)

A Consumer Reports investigation found that 69% of all raw pork samples tested were contaminated with high amounts of volatile microorganisms such as Yersinia enterocolitica. This bacteria causes fever and gastrointestinal stress and could potentially cause a fatal infection.

Why is pig meat so toxic:

Animals that "chew the cud" as it says in the Bible are called ruminants. These animals hardly chew their food when it is first swallowed. But they have four stomachs that digest and regurgitate food through a special process that allows complete digestion. The major ruminants are cows, sheep and goats.

The digestive system of a pig is unique in that it metabolizes food very quickly through one stomach in a process that takes about four hours. A cow takes 24 hours to digest what's eaten, and it is able to get rid of excess toxins during the digestive process. The pig's digestive system doesn't allow for this, and the toxins are carried into the fat cells and organs of the pig itself.

Pigs also do not have sweat glands. Perspiration is a key method that the body uses for detoxification, and the pig is not designed to perspire. When we consume pig meat, we get all of these pathogenic microorganisms and environmental toxins into our system.

Pasture-fed pork products are much safer, but still, the animal is just not designed to eliminate toxins effectively. Many of these toxins are not neutralized even with high-heat cooking methods. High-heat cooking methods produce heterocyclic amine in the meat and damages much of the essential fats, which makes the pork, ham or bacon highly carcinogenic.

Was the Bible's message to avoid consuming unclean meat necessary for reducing infection and chronic health problems? Based on the nature of pigs and the toxic load that they carry, it seems to be the best advice for optimal health.

Sources for this article include:

http://www.draxe.com

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://science.naturalnews.com

Suzanne

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