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Re: What is the Role of the Holy Spirit in Our Lives? [Re: Daryl] #172872
04/19/15 06:51 PM
04/19/15 06:51 PM
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I would like to focus on the role of the Holy Spirit guiding us into all truth.

Does anybody have any thoughts on that role or function of the Holy Spirit?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: What is the Role of the Holy Spirit in Our Lives? [Re: Daryl] #172876
04/21/15 03:52 AM
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The Holy Spirit has more than one role!
He gives spiritual gifts according to His will (1 Corinthians 12:7–11)
He also comforts us (John 14:16, KJV)
He speaks (Acts 8:29)
teaches (Luke 12:12)
reveals (Luke 2:26)
testifies (Acts 20:23)
searches (1 Cor. 2:10,11)
He sets people apart for service and sends them on their way (Acts 13:2,4)
He commands and guides (Acts 8:29)
He declares things to come (John 16:13)
He sets our minds on the things of God (Romans 8:5)
He “convicts the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment” (John 16:7-11).
Through the Spirit we put to death the deeds of the body (Romans 8:13)

He leads us to Christ. (John 15:26)

Christ is the way, the truth and the light.
He is the only Savior.







Yet the question remains -- how do we recognize the voice of the holy spirit from our own thoughts and desires?
All kinds of opposing doctrines are taught, each person presenting them claiming they were led by the spirit.

We need to remember it was the Holy Spirit that inspired Biblical writers to write what is now our scriptures.
The same Holy Spirit uses that book as His textbook in teaching us God's will.

The Word is the “sword of the Spirit” (Ephesians 6:17)which He uses to cut away wrong habits and ideas, if we allow Him to impress us with truth as we contemplate Biblical passages.

It is also necessary for us to be in continual prayer (1 Thessalonians 5:17) -- to be connected.

Another way to tell if we are following the Spirit’s leading is to look for signs of His fruit in our lives (Galatians 5:22). What are these fruits? Love, peace, kindness, joy, patience, temperance, faith, goodness, meekness

Re: What is the Role of the Holy Spirit in Our Lives? [Re: Daryl] #172880
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You raised an interesting question in relation to the role of the Holy Spirit to guide us into all truth.

If the Holy Spirit is leading both of us in a particular truth, but we both have reached a different conclusion, then how could we both be right in regards to the guiding of the Holy Spirit seeing there is only one particular of truth?

Let us use an obvious church issue, which is the WO issue, as an example, not to discuss here, but simply as an example.

Let's say that I believe WO isn't biblical, which I actually do, but you believe that WO is biblical and we both say that the Holy Spirit guided us to our separate conclusions.

How could the Holy Spirit have guided us to two opposite conclusions? I ask, as there is only one truth that the Holy Spirit would have guided us into. How do we respond to something like this in relation to the role of the Holy Spirit guiding us both into all truth?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

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Re: What is the Role of the Holy Spirit in Our Lives? [Re: Daryl] #172882
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Dedication, thank you so much for that wonderful study. I very much appreciate all the time you devote to sharing Bible truth. God bless you. God cares about saving truths. Side issues like WO must not detract from proclaiming saving truths.

Re: What is the Role of the Holy Spirit in Our Lives? [Re: Daryl] #172885
04/22/15 04:11 AM
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Daryl- How could the Holy Spirit have guided us to two opposite conclusions? I ask, as there is only one truth that the Holy Spirit would have guided us into. How do we respond to something like this in relation to the role of the Holy Spirit guiding us both into all truth?

Brother Daryl, may I say that even this question appears to be guided by the "Spirit of Truth." Because that is a serious true question we need an answer and it must be the correct answer.

We have posted the study on Zech. 4 and God sent that to answer your specific question. He knew beforehand these questions we have , therefore, He sent through His prophets studies and symbols that give our answers.

Briefly Zech. 4 lesson teaches us that it is the "prophets" of God who speak His will and future events. Not man individually. God speaks the truth through them by His Spirit of Truth. Once we have this gift,and it is a --gift, we will be able to recognize "truth" as spoken by the prophets and put into writings. THERE will be our answer.

But this gift is given only to those who "do His will".

"If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself." (John 7:17)

Yet you ask, "But the Scriptures appear to support both sides of the issue, what then?"

God promised in Malachi a "restorer" and he was to come and restore the truth (and proclaim the kingdom before the G and D day of the Lord-- the next appearing of the Lord) that needs to be set straight. God knew we needed someone to clear questions like this in these last days.

In other words by sending His last prophet, many issues are cleared IF we believe it.



We did a report on this WO issue. Women's Ordination

Re: What is the Role of the Holy Spirit in Our Lives? [Re: Daryl] #172888
04/22/15 07:42 AM
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How could the Holy Spirit have guided us to two opposite conclusions?

The Holy Spirit has a lot of roadblocks to overcome in order to lead people to truth.
How long did it take Jesus Himself to get His disciples to understand the truth of His mission on earth?


If prophets are to settle the question as to what is truth, by what do we test the prophets to see if they are true prophets?
For every true prophet (like Jeremiah) we find there were many false prophets (like Hananiah).



Often people miss the truth because they don't study it out for themselves. They aren't the ones on their knees with open Bible studying. People more commonly find some theory that sounds good -- has lots of proof texts and possibly even a lot of EGW quotes strung together to shape some "belief" that is sold to them as truth. Or they have a favorite preacher or writer, that feeds them, and they accept his words. (They may be receiving truth, or they may not be).



They then read the scriptures (and EGW) not so much to "see if these things are so" but rather to find more ammunition to support what they have chosen as "the truth".

That's what happened in Christ's day -- they were sure the Messiah would bring a literal kingdom and free them from oppressors -- and they had plenty of texts to base it on. But somehow they missed the whole meaning of their sanctuary services, which pointed to Christ's sacrifice and death.


We need to prayerfully read and study God's Word in context, and in the whole of salvations history. Dig deeper.

We need more of the Holy Spirit and the mind of Christ. Which is more important than a lot of things people get all caught up in and lose all the greater things taught in God's law.
The Holy Spirits first work is to change our lives so we exhibit the fruits of the Holy Spirit.

This topic on the Holy Spirit is a very important topic --
As, like one person says, we are facing an oil crises, a great lack of a genuine connection through the Holy Spirit with Christ, the source of all truth and righteousness.



By His Spirit

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