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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #176182
08/20/15 10:09 AM
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Here is a bit of scientific evidence that, whatever the cause, things are RAPIDLY changing on planet Earth. The University of Maine collates water temperature data gathered from various satellites and buoy arrays such as the ARGO buoy swarm,  etc.
I trust everyone here is savvy enough to acknowledge the effect ocean temperature has on specific weather systems and climate in general?

The data below is from two days ago:


http://planetindistress.com/2015/08/18/t...h-this-picture/






"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #176200
08/20/15 04:51 PM
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Prodigal One, thank you. If we cannot say why Jesus is permitting man-made and natural disasters to cause wide spread death, disease, and disaster then we are in trouble. The quotes I posted above explain why. Time to read and heed.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: Mountain Man] #176208
08/20/15 08:17 PM
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"Time to read and heed!" Amen, Mountain Man!


Here are some weather records that might be of interest to those of you who read the University of Maine data:


July 2012 was the hottest month on record!
http://www.weather.com/news/news/noaa-report-july-20120808

July 2014 tied with July 2013 for the world's fourth hottest on record!
http://www.weather.com/science/news/july-2014-worlds-fourth-hottest-july-noaa-20140819

July 2015 was the hottest month for the entire planet ever recorded!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/july-2015-was-the-hottest-month-on-modern-record-1.3197748



"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: ProdigalOne] #176209
08/20/15 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
I believe these disasters are just the beginning and that they are warnings from a merciful God: believers, prepare, purify yourselves, wake up, warn the world; unbelievers, events beyond your control are coming to pass, open your eyes, hearken to the voice of the angels, "the hour of His judgement is come"!
It really is important to know what to warn the world of.

Is it really "good news", to tell the world that they better shape up or God is going to hurt them more than ever? Is that what we should warn them of?

Or is it that it doesn't really matter whether sin is hurting them or God is hurting them, but the important thing is they are going to get hurt more if they don't shape up?

Is that really "good news", is that really what we should warn them of?

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #176213
08/21/15 01:17 AM
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Kland, the Bible takes the guess work out of it. Here's what Jesus said about it:

Revelation
14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #176222
08/21/15 06:53 PM
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So you are attempting to validate my question?!

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #176225
08/22/15 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
I believe these disasters are just the beginning and that they are warnings from a merciful God: believers, prepare, purify yourselves, wake up, warn the world; unbelievers, events beyond your control are coming to pass, open your eyes, hearken to the voice of the angels, "the hour of His judgement is come"!
It really is important to know what to warn the world of.

Is it really "good news", to tell the world that they better shape up or God is going to hurt them more than ever? Is that what we should warn them of?

Or is it that it doesn't really matter whether sin is hurting them or God is hurting them, but the important thing is they are going to get hurt more if they don't shape up?

Is that really "good news", is that really what we should warn them of?




Kland, I will ignore your strawman statement (the quote you show does not say it is "good news"). I said, "they are warnings. If you are about to drink from a poisoned cup and someone warns you is it bad news, possibly; although, I think it would be worse news to be warned after drinking a fatal dose of the poison of sin and disobedience.

Is it really "God hurting them" if they choose to drink the poison of sin after He has warned them, in fact pleaded with them, not to?

I do believe it is good news that it is not yet too late, the sinner can turn from sin and be plucked from the coming fire. I also believe it is good news that the things coming to pass on the Earth presage the end of evil and the imminent arrival of our Lord!


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #176239
08/23/15 12:29 AM
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Kland, Jesus stated the truth in the Scripture posted above in language so clear no one in their mind can mistake it.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: ProdigalOne] #176327
08/25/15 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Is it really "God hurting them" if they choose to drink the poison of sin after He has warned them, in fact pleaded with them, not to?
You're missing the point. MM is not saying that God is warning them not to drink the poison, but that God is the one poisoning them.

P.S. Don't know what you are talking about a strawman, but I find those who accuse others of strawman, are generally dishonest. Are you an exception? Maybe due to not understanding my point?

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: Mountain Man] #176328
08/25/15 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Kland, Jesus stated the truth in the Scripture posted above in language so clear no one in their mind can mistake it.
You think it's clear, but have difficulty stating who killed Saul.


If Iran were to be allowed to use centrifuges for producing nuclear bombs and missiles, would you say they would be making use of the same destructive power as Japan did by failing to have a backup plan for their nuclear reactors resulting in all kinds of death and destruction?

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