I'll not speak for Nadi, who is more than capable of speaking for herself, but in my experience the harshest, most vitriolic responses on this forum come from those who are convinced they have "THE TRUTH" and there is no more to be said, as if that gives them the right to persecute those who "do not."

So it hasn't changed THEIR lives, much.

By their fruits ye shall know them...

That didn't answer my question. It just pointed the finger at others as not being perfect and passing judgment.

As far as harsh and hurtful and put-down posting, those who oppose Adventist beliefs can sure dish it out pretty heavily themselves, especially when an Adventist tries to show why they believe as they do. It actually comes to the point where it drives Adventists away from the forum, as it just doesn't feel like Adventists are welcome anymore.
It seems that those who oppose the doctrines are convinced they have "the truth" on the matter as well???

So none of that answers the actual questions under discussion.
All it does is show that both sides are convinced on their side of the subject.

Also -- posting doesn't have the benefit of personal interaction. It's often rather amazing how someone thinks something is "harsh" and is quick to judge character, when it wasn't meant to be harsh and the same things discussed in a person's presence may not be considered as such at all.



Now back to the question.
Can Christ transform a person, changing their heart and mind to be more like Him?

Back to the question??
The question (as per the OP) is "Is the Investigative Judgement Biblical?" but since you can't or won't answer that question you derail the thread and then demand that YOUR question get answered.

??????
You are the one who lifted what you now call a "derailing" question out of the context of the previous discussion, seemingly not to continue the discussion but only to make "harsh" and unkind statements.

Why are you so afraid to answer it, after bringing it to the forefront?

As to the OP question -- much has been written in the last 16 pages to deal with it.
Yes, I believe the pre-Advent judgment is Biblical. Sure others try to rationalize it away, but their arguments do not ring true to me.

I answered your question. To bad my answer makes you uncomfortable.

So basically it appears you do not believe God can change our lives nor make us holy. Your proof -- your own and other's failures, as well as implying that anyone that is convinced and sharing what they believe is a bad person.

But God does have the power to change our lives!

Those who look to Jesus can claim the following promise.

Phil. 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Do you believe it?
You can claim it, for He will perform it.

We need to spend more time in prayer, not just for ourselves but for others.

But back to the topic of the thread and some of the points brought up in former posts.

Some of the points I'm presenting in the next posts are from the first Bible studies on this subject discovered BEFORE EGW wrote anything concerning it.


WHAT IS MEANT BY SANCTUARY?

The Sanctuary was the heart of the typical system of Israel. There the Lord placed his name, manifested his glory, and held converse with the High Priest relative to the welfare of Israel. While we inquire from the scriptures what the sanctuary is, let all prejudice be dismissed from the mind. For the Bible clearly defines what the Sanctuary is, and answers every reasonable question you may ask concerning it.

It's true that the word "sanctuary" or "qodesh" which basically means "holiness", is applied to several different things in the O.T. But we must take note, is it used as an adjective, (as in holy oil, holy garments, holy vessels, etc) or as a noun?
The "qodesh" (noun) refers to THE sanctuary or temple.

THE SANCTUARY IN DANIEL 8:13

When Daniel was told by the heavenly messenger that the sanctuary was to be cleansed at the end of the 2,300 days it was called THE SANCTUARY. Daniel well understood what was being referred to, which is evident from the fact that he did not ask what it was. He didn't ask "what holy or "qodesh" object are you referring to? No, he knew it was THE sanctuary.


"Sanctuary" was the first name the Lord gave it; Exodus 25:8, which name covers not only the tabernacle with its two apartments, but also the court and all the vessels of the ministry. - This, Paul calls the Sanctuary of the first covenant,
"which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices;" Hebrews 9:9.

Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, (Heb. 8:5)

(But now Christ is) A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. (Heb 8:2)

DAYS OR YEARS

The question asked in Daniel 8:13 "How long the vision concerning the daily and the transgression of desolation...."
This question refers to the entire vision (hazon). This means that the 2300 (days) or evening and mornings must start during the rule of the Persian (ram) and extend through the reign of the Grecian Empire (Goat), it extends through the four horn powers and on to the career of the little horn, until we come to the point IN THE TIME OF THE END.

Since 2300 literal days fall far short of spanning the whole vision, it is obvious that the 2300 days, just like the 490 days in Daniel 9, are to be understood in a symbolic day for a year principle.

If one uses the word "vision" here in Dan. 8:13 to mean only what the little horn does, then one really has two visions: one about the ram, the goat, and the four horns, and another vision about the little horn.
Yet Daniel 8 is ONE vision, not two.

The word "vision" (hazon) occurs three times in the introduction of this vision in verses 1-2, and occurs again in verse 13. It occurs three more times after verse 13.

"When I, Daniel, had seen the vision, I sought to understand it" (v. 15) Gabriel responds by explaining the vision, starting with the ram. So we see every time the word "vision" (hazon) appears in Daniel it is referring to THE WHOLE vision.

"How long shall be the vision....
The Hebrew, according to one scholar literally reads
"Until when shall be the vision".

The vision takes us to events IN THE LAST DAYS. (see Daniel 8 verse 19) The focus is placed upon the point of time at the END of the 2300 evening/mornings or day/years.

So when did the "vision" or "hazon" in Daniel 8 begin?
It began with the "ram" which represented Media Persia, that much we know and understand from chapter 8.

The vision takes us from Media Persia (RAM) through Grecian Empire (Goat) and on down through the reign of the horn, to "the time of the end".

Daniel 9 gives more clues as to it's starting date --
There we read of the same angel Gabriel being sent to instruct Daniel further into the vision
"23rd verse. "At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to show thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision."

It would begin when the command was given to re-establish Jerusalem. A command given by the Persian Ruler, Artaxerxes.

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William Miller calculated the time from 457 B.C. adding 2300 years.

The Sanctuary to be cleansed at the end of the 2,300 days/years is the Sanctuary of the new covenant. For the vision of Daniel 8 in which the horn is reaching up into heaven and casting down THE PLACE of the sanctuary and treading it down (8:11) is after the crucifixion.
We see that the Sanctuary of the new covenant is not on earth, but in heaven. Even though the horn tries to make it appear it has brought it back down to earth. (Dan. 8:11)
The true sanctuary of the new covenant, was made and pitched by the Lord(Heb. 8:2)



The Sanctuary of the new covenant is connected with the New Jerusalem, like the Sanctuary of the first covenant was with Old Jerusalem. As that was the place where the priests of that covenant ministered, so this is in heaven, the place where the Priest of the new covenant ministers.

In the pre-Advent judgment, those whose names are presented before the Father and heavenly angels (Rev. 3:5) who have overcome by the blood of Christ, and been clothed with the white robes of Christ's righteousness will have the inscription:

"I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. (Rev. 3:12)

Bumping this, as I review what has been posted in here, and hoping for further responses in relation to the biblical aspects of the IJ.