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Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? #187228
08/11/18 11:07 PM
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I was doing the Sabbath School this morning, and in describing how the Jews had embellished and expanded what God had said about those who were uncircumcised or unclean, I used as an a example of today, 2 Corinthians 6:14:

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

And I got a reaction that I did not expect. How do you all see this verse, what is it talking about, marriage, contracts, social contacts, political groups, etc... What level of interaction are we talking about here?

Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: Rick H] #187231
08/12/18 05:04 AM
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Of your listed items, it would apply to marriage, contracts, and political groups. Having a social contact would not qualify as applicable because we are told to live in the world but not be of the world. We have to have contact, and people can only be taught of God through such.

Mrs. White applies the text to marriage, alliances, political questions, business relations, medical work, etc. Here is one quote where she explains the breadth of the term.

Originally Posted By: Ellen White
The Lord's injunction, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers" (2 Corinthians 6:14), refers not only to the marriage of Christians with the ungodly, but to all alliances in which the parties are brought into intimate association, and in which there is need of harmony in spirit and action. The Lord gave special direction to Israel to keep themselves distinct from idolaters. They were not to intermarry with the heathen nor form any confederacy with them: "Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: but ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: for thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God" (Exodus 34:12-14). {2SM 121.2}


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: Rick H] #187237
08/12/18 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rick H
I was doing the Sabbath School this morning, and in describing how the Jews had embellished and expanded what God had said about those who were uncircumcised or unclean, I used as an a example of today, 2 Corinthians 6:14:

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

And I got a reaction that I did not expect. How do you all see this verse, what is it talking about, marriage, contracts, social contacts, political groups, etc... What level of interaction are we talking about here?

Paul explained what he meant:

1. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness?
2. And what communion has light with darkness?
3. And what accord has Christ with Belial?
4. Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?
5. And what agreement has the temple of God with idols?
  • Choose your friends wisely. They should be of the same faith and share the same moral values.
     
  • Choose your alliances wisely. You may enter into alliances with others of a different faith, but for a purely wise reason. Take for example the matter of freedom of religion in politics. Even though the Church does not share the same faith as the Mosque or the Temple, nevertheless it may form an alliance with them for the sake of securing the future of religious liberty for all. The terms of the alliance must then be clearly understood be to be specifically confined to that.
     
  • Finally, consider this forum. We do not all have the same perspective on any particular subject; but we do have one thing in common: our affiliation with the Seventh-day Adventist Christian denomination, an awareness of its unique contribution to theology, the divisive issues that plague the organization, its weaknesses and also its strengths.
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Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: Green Cochoa] #187319
08/20/18 12:19 PM
08/20/18 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
Of your listed items, it would apply to marriage, contracts, and political groups. Having a social contact would not qualify as applicable because we are told to live in the world but not be of the world. We have to have contact, and people can only be taught of God through such.

Mrs. White applies the text to marriage, alliances, political questions, business relations, medical work, etc. Here is one quote where she explains the breadth of the term.

Originally Posted By: Ellen White
The Lord's injunction, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers" (2 Corinthians 6:14), refers not only to the marriage of Christians with the ungodly, but to all alliances in which the parties are brought into intimate association, and in which there is need of harmony in spirit and action. The Lord gave special direction to Israel to keep themselves distinct from idolaters. They were not to intermarry with the heathen nor form any confederacy with them: "Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: but ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: for thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God" (Exodus 34:12-14). {2SM 121.2}


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


I like the example you gave, "a social contact would not qualify as applicable because we are told to live in the world but not be of the world." The context was we were speaking of how the Jews had formed traditions and ideas which had surpassed to the extreme or not given to them at all. There are some which have the idea that we should only be with Adventist members, and only marry or be married to other Adventist, or along those lines, and I had to deal with it quickly.

I gave the verse in Mark 7:8-9 King James Version (KJV)

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

and 1 Corinthians 7:14 "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy."

Last edited by Rick H; 08/20/18 12:20 PM.
Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: James Peterson] #187320
08/20/18 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Rick H
I was doing the Sabbath School this morning, and in describing how the Jews had embellished and expanded what God had said about those who were uncircumcised or unclean, I used as an a example of today, 2 Corinthians 6:14:

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

And I got a reaction that I did not expect. How do you all see this verse, what is it talking about, marriage, contracts, social contacts, political groups, etc... What level of interaction are we talking about here?

Paul explained what he meant:

1. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness?
2. And what communion has light with darkness?
3. And what accord has Christ with Belial?
4. Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?
5. And what agreement has the temple of God with idols?
  • Choose your friends wisely. They should be of the same faith and share the same moral values.
     
  • Choose your alliances wisely. You may enter into alliances with others of a different faith, but for a purely wise reason. Take for example the matter of freedom of religion in politics. Even though the Church does not share the same faith as the Mosque or the Temple, nevertheless it may form an alliance with them for the sake of securing the future of religious liberty for all. The terms of the alliance must then be clearly understood be to be specifically confined to that.
     
  • Finally, consider this forum. We do not all have the same perspective on any particular subject; but we do have one thing in common: our affiliation with the Seventh-day Adventist Christian denomination, an awareness of its unique contribution to theology, the divisive issues that plague the organization, its weaknesses and also its strengths.
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Well, lets go to the question they posed, would you allow your young son or daughter to date or get engaged and chose to marry someone outside the church(not in a church) or a non-Adventist.

Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: Rick H] #187324
08/20/18 10:17 PM
08/20/18 10:17 PM
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Rick, would or could the answer be different if someone is not a Christian vs. not an Adventist Christian?

Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: Rick H] #187331
08/22/18 01:06 AM
08/22/18 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rick H
Well, lets go to the question they posed, would you allow your young son or daughter to date or get engaged and chose to marry someone outside the church(not in a church) or a non-Adventist.

Allow is strong word. There is an issue here that is outside the scope of the thread: should parents be final arbiters of who their children marry? Anyway ...
  • Should an SDA marry a non-SDA? I won't advise it unless the SDA is more or less accommodating of other Christian denominations.
     
  • Should a Christian marry a non-Christian? I DEFINITELY won't advise it. What has the temple of Christ to do with, for example, the mosque of Mohammed, a false prophet who denies the Divinity of OUR LORD, hmmmm?
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Originally Posted By: kland
Rick, would or could the answer be different if someone is not a Christian vs. not an Adventist Christian?

Good question.

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Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: kland] #187336
08/22/18 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Rick, would or could the answer be different if someone is not a Christian vs. not an Adventist Christian?


What if they do not go to any church at all, like most people now a days, is that a non Christian?

Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: James Peterson] #187337
08/22/18 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Rick H
Well, lets go to the question they posed, would you allow your young son or daughter to date or get engaged and chose to marry someone outside the church(not in a church) or a non-Adventist.

Allow is strong word. There is an issue here that is outside the scope of the thread: should parents be final arbiters of who their children marry? Anyway ...
  • Should an SDA marry a non-SDA? I won't advise it unless the SDA is more or less accommodating of other Christian denominations.
     
  • Should a Christian marry a non-Christian? I DEFINITELY won't advise it. What has the temple of Christ to do with, for example, the mosque of Mohammed, a false prophet who denies the Divinity of OUR LORD, hmmmm?
///

Originally Posted By: kland
Rick, would or could the answer be different if someone is not a Christian vs. not an Adventist Christian?

Good question.

///


How do you see this verse then....

Proverbs 22:6

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Re: Be ye not unequally yoked together.....What does that mean? [Re: Rick H] #187346
08/23/18 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rick H
Originally Posted By: kland
Rick, would or could the answer be different if someone is not a Christian vs. not an Adventist Christian?


What if they do not go to any church at all, like most people now a days, is that a non Christian?
Membership on a piece of paper does not a Christian make.

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