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Re: David Gates' prediction re Spring 2019 [Re: Laodicean] #188252
01/13/19 05:59 PM
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He never ever retracted his confession. That is absolutely false.


If Ernie admitted to falsifying his dreams, shut down his ministry and then restarted it again claiming that only that part of the dream was uninspired, how much can we credit him? We don't hold it against him but once a sacred trust is betrayed we ought to be cautious. And Ernie's course was a betrayal of sacred trust. Gates endorsed Ernie before this came out. How could he conscientiously endorse him afterward? The most he or anyone else can do now is to say "Be very careful given the history." After reading Ernie's account in chapter 5 I came away with the sense that to this day Ernie doesn't understand the seriousness of his sin. A true friend of Ernie's will try to pull him from the fire.

Re: David Gates' prediction re Spring 2019 [Re: Charity] #188253
01/13/19 07:16 PM
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He did not admit to falsifying his dreams. He admitted to making up a fictitious friend who he mentioned in publications. He never admitted to falsifying any of the dreams, which admonish people to repent and prepare for the Saviors return. God showed me a dream of Ernie’s troubles before the scandal came out. I was already praying for my brother- even before my dream. But, i increased my efforts after. You would have to know Ernie to understand . You would need to read a lot more than just a chapter to one publication. We have to be careful when examining someone’s story and make sure we get the facts. King David, the apple of God’s eye, coveted, lusted, adulterated, murdered. God restored Him. We are ok with that. Peter lied and denied Jesus 3 times. Jesus restored him. We are ok with that. What about our brothers and sisters living now. Will we allow them grace when they confess their wrongs. Hmmm. God is.


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Re: David Gates' prediction re Spring 2019 [Re: Charity] #188254
01/13/19 07:27 PM
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Gates has to live with his own decisions, as anyone else. As for me, I was taught to test the spirits and rightly divide the word of truth. My standard is the Bible and the convictions of the Holy Spirit. All other literature/doctrine must be in line with His Holy writ. I don’t endorse or trust any man. But, aim to encourage others in the Lord God. Sometimes we do have to stand in the gap for others at fault- just as Moses’ wife did for him when he almost lost his life for disobeying God in not circumcising his son. I endorse and put my trust in our loving Creator. Only God will never fail me. Deuteronomy 31:6


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Re: David Gates' prediction re Spring 2019 [Re: Rick H] #188255
01/13/19 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rick H
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I came, I saw, I cringed, I left.


We certainly agree, not much unity or knowledge....


In Christ's Day, the angels could not find people of learning looking for the Savior's. Until they found the shepherds watching sheep in the field. hmmm


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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