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Re: The King of the North
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02/10/19 07:53 PM
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I would not only be surprised, I'd be shocked!
Notice that the term Thy people is being used--who is the one who stands for Israel? Michael-Christ. Jesus will be done with the cleansing of the sanctuary."And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of THY people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time THY. people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book." Christ stands for every one of HIS world wise.
Also, how you could think that Pence has anything to do with salvation of the people, I have no clue. He is an Evangelical--that's it. That does not make him godly. IMO, he is just as much of Babylon as the others.
I know the story about Cyrus. I think it has nothing to do with Pence.
I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;...
Gen 32:10
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Re: The King of the North
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02/12/19 03:03 PM
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Was Cyrus a first name or last name?
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Re: The King of the North
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02/13/19 08:53 PM
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Was Cyrus a first name or last name?
Neither first nor last. The whole "first name/last name" thing didn't start till around 1066CE, so that question does not really apply.
"Our vision is often more obstructed by what we think we know than by our lack of knowledge." K. Stendahl
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Re: The King of the North
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02/14/19 11:12 AM
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I would not only be surprised, I'd be shocked!
Notice that the term Thy people is being used--who is the one who stands for Israel? Michael-Christ. Jesus will be done with the cleansing of the sanctuary."And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of THY people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time THY. people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book." Christ stands for every one of HIS world wise.
Also, how you could think that Pence has anything to do with salvation of the people, I have no clue. He is an Evangelical--that's it. That does not make him godly. IMO, he is just as much of Babylon as the others.
I know the story about Cyrus. I think it has nothing to do with Pence.
The question is not what we THINK, but what does the Bible say. As I read it: Trump gets us into a war with Iran He gets impeached by a few (votes) people Pence (Michael) stands for his people (Apostate Protestants) He brings in the Mark of the Beast The little time of trouble that we are in morphs into the Time of Jacob's Trouble Christ stands for His people Just as King Cyrus was named by name Michael Pence is named by name As Michael stand for His people, the counterfeit Michael stands for his people The sad part of the story is that the 10 virgins will not all awake in time The Laodiceans won't all see their need to repent and reform And the coming of Christ will be as it was in the Days of Noah
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: The King of the North
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02/14/19 11:33 AM
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Was Cyrus a first name or last name?
Neither first nor last. The whole "first name/last name" thing didn't start till around 1066CE, so that question does not really apply. So how does one distinguish between so called Michael Pence being named in so prophecy vs. someone else, say Michael Jordon? (Pence is not currently a president, neither is someone else)
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Re: The King of the North
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02/14/19 02:03 PM
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The question is not what we THINK, but what does the Bible say. It is not what YOU THINK it says.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: The King of the North
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02/15/19 03:02 PM
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Was Cyrus a first name or last name?
Neither first nor last. The whole "first name/last name" thing didn't start till around 1066CE, so that question does not really apply. So how does one distinguish between so called Michael Pence being named in so prophecy vs. someone else, say Michael Jordon? (Pence is not currently a president, neither is someone else) Studying the prophecies with a heart of a student rather than that of a Laodicean makes it easier for the Holy Spirit to work upon it. The third angel's message tells that America will be the last power to persecute God's Church/people. Thus far my study has revealed that Michael pence will be the power that takes out Iran and turns against the covenant (God's covenant and the US Constitution). He is not president yet. But he will be and when he is he will implement the Mark of the beast. So the challenge is to study the word and confirm my reading or disprove it without any doubt. To discount it because it does not fit into your world view is antediluvian. They refused to believe Noah's message and they perished in their unbelief.
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: The King of the North
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02/15/19 03:05 PM
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The question is not what we THINK, but what does the Bible say. It is not what YOU THINK it says. You have demonstrated your skepticism and unbelief and bashed the evidence that I presented, but the burden of disproving what you refuse t believe is on you. Give you Scriptural evidence and make your case to enlighten us to the Truth.
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: The King of the North
[Re: Rick H]
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02/16/19 05:31 PM
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OK and BTW, I have no clue who the "us" is you refer to. I am sure few share your belief. The Michael of Dan is also the Michael of Revelation.
How about Rev 12:7? Jude v 9? Dan 10:13-21
Are these also also Mike Pence?
I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;...
Gen 32:10
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Re: The King of the North
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02/16/19 06:35 PM
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Excellent question, Theophilus!
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels". Revelation 12:7
"Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses". Jude 1:9
"lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.". Daniel 10:13
So, Michael Pence (or is it Jordan?) lives in heaven and commands angels; contended with the devil over Moses; and, was in Persia over 500 years before the first coming of Christ?
"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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