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Concern over President Trump's Impeachment #189200
04/26/19 01:59 PM
04/26/19 01:59 PM
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This title popped up[already in the subject line] when I was beginning a new topic.

This title is appropriate, since my latest book is "The Last Trump Shall Sound"

This is the message for the hour that puts the 3AM in context for our generation on the eve of Christ's coming.

The Nearness of Time

Time is not the message! What is happening in our time is the message that must be heard aright!

Is our natural world colliding with the unseen supernatural world? It looks that way with chaos on every front: Self-perpetuating wars, displaced populations, border insecurity, epidemic drug abuse, natural disasters of unprecedented scope, entrenched political wrangling, and the loss of the moral compass that is desperately needed to guide aright. It is not business as usual. What is happening? Why is it happening?

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The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind (Isaiah 17:13).


As Solomon said, “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9). And the Apostles asked, “Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye” (Acts 4:19). Do we listen to God or man?

Is there a God? Is He our Creator? Or is God an imaginary Being that epitomizes man’s ideas of perfection?

Should we worship Him? The idea of worship is so old fashion. Does anybody worship anything anymore? We worship that which gets our attention.

People are so limited. The supernatural God of the universe is unseen by human eyes. People cannot even say what will happen tomorrow or even in five minutes.

To discover if God is, I began studying Bible prophecy. Bible prophecy, because the Bible claims to be able to foretell the future: “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts” (1 Peter 1:9).
Verifying that the Bible accurately predicts the future, proves that it reveals secrets of the supernatural world. By correctly revealing the future, it proves itself trustworthy. Since the Bible is truthful, then what it says about God is trustworthy too. If prophecies that can be verified are true, God’s revelation about Himself are true too!

Adrian Rogers said in a radio sermon that there are 333 prophecies in the Bible predicting Christ’s Coming. His evidence proved that they were fulfilled exactly as predicted. Eight of these prophecies include that Jesus was born at a certain time; at a certain place; His mother was a virgin; babies were killed in an attempt to kill Him; He healed the sick; He was rejected; He was crucified; and He arose from the dead. Rogers added that if only eight prophecies of the 333 were considered: According to the law of probability, it would be like placing a man in Texas at a random location with the assignment to find a designated coin after the entire state had been covered with a two-foot pile of silver dollars. The man does the impossible, he finds it.

The gist of Rogers presentation was that Peter Stoner, a statistician, calculated the odds of prophecies that predicted Christ’s First Advent being fulfilled. They were fulfilled exactly as prophesied! Chance happenings: astronomical!

Since 333 Bible prophecies about Christ’s First Advent were right, the Bible has already demonstrated an impressive track record. Thus, the assurance: The prophecies about Christ’s Second Advent must be as trustworthy as well! My questions: Do we really understand them? Or are they so old that they have been tainted by tradition as they were passed from generation to generation?

The only way to find out for myself was to study Bible prophecy. At first, I studied prepared studies about Daniel and Revelation. When these studies were compared to studies prepared by different churches, they did not agree. If the Bible is the source of the study, how can so many churches have all those contradictions?


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Re: Concern over Presiednt Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189201
04/26/19 02:05 PM
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My quest: To find out what the Bible really said about Christ’s Second Advent. To let the Bible, speak for itself.

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And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory (Matthew 24:30).


Jesus also warned, “How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!” (Matthew 24:19, NIV). Has that time past? If not, when? Why did Jesus give this warning? Is He teaching family planning?

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Your gold and silver…shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days (James 5:3, ed).


With retirement funds, 401K’s and financial planning, for the purpose of having a secure future, will there be a time that our possessions will curse us? What about having a house mortgage, car payments, and unpaid debts? When will these monitory issues be a hinderance?

How do we know when it is time to give as the Israelites gave in the wilderness: To bring our offerings to the LORD for His work? Instead of having our possessions consume our flesh, it would be better to have them to be used for God like the poor widow’s two mites.

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This poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living (Matthew 12:42-43).


With the 666 Mark of the beast coming, when will it be dangerous for men and women to go into the military? To some, joining the armed services just seems like getting a secure government job with benefits.

When the Mark of the Beast is upon us, Christians should not be in his service. Life will be hard enough for God’s people without being in the military. Is it wise to leave eternal decisions to chance? Why would Jesus forewarn us if He did not want us to understand His warning at the appropriate time and make preparation? Are we listening?

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In the prophecies the future is opened before us as plainly as it was opened...by the words of Christ. The events…are clearly presented. But multitudes have no more understanding of these important truths than if they had never been revealed.


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The Lord is testing His people to see who will be loyal to the principles of His truth. Our work is to proclaim to the world the first, second, and third angels’ messages. In the discharge of our duties we are neither to despise nor to fear our enemies. … We are to treat with kindness and courtesy those who refuse to be loyal to God, but we are never, never to unite with them in counsel regarding the vital interests of His work. Putting our trust in God, we are to move steadily forward, doing His work with unselfishness, in humble dependence upon Him, committing to His providence ourselves and all that concerns our present and future, holding the beginning of our confidence firm unto the end, remembering that we receive the blessings of heaven, not because of our worthiness, but because of Christ’s worthiness and our acceptance, through faith in Him, of God’s abounding grace.


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It is possible to be a formal, partial believer, and yet be found wanting, and lose eternal life. It is possible to practice some of the Bible injunctions, and be regarded as a Christian, and yet perish because you are lacking in essential qualifications that constitute Christian character. The destroying angels have the commission from the Lord, “Begin at My sanctuary.” And “they began at the ancient men which were before the house.” If the warnings which God has given are neglected or regarded with indifference, if you suffer sin to be cherished, you are sealing your soul’s destiny; you will be weighed in the balances and found wanting. Grace, peace, and pardon will be withdrawn forever; Jesus will have passed by, never again to come within the reach of your prayers and entreaties. While mercy still lingers, while Jesus is making intercession for us, let us make thorough work for eternity.


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The Spirit of God is departing from many among His people. Many have entered into dark, secret paths, and some will never return. They will continue to stumble to their ruin. They have tempted God, they have rejected light. All the evidence that will ever be given them they have received, and have not heeded. They have chosen darkness rather than light, and have defiled their souls… The world is polluted, corrupted, as was the world in the days of Noah. The only remedy is belief in the truth, acceptance of the light. Yet many have listened to the truth spoken in demonstration of the Spirit, and they have not only refused to accept the message, but they have hated the light. These men are parties to the ruin of souls. They have interposed themselves between the heaven-sent light and the people.


To fail to worship God is to choose to worship another by default. Whoever gets our attention gets our worship. God is not going to be second place. Get ready to meet God!


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Concern over Presiednt Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189202
04/26/19 08:04 PM
04/26/19 08:04 PM
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I'm glad you wrote -- "Time is not the message, what is happening in our time that is the message"

I agree! Yes, it is important to realize things are shaping up for the final crises in an alarming manner, and yes, it is urgent that God is our all in all, for this world is about to crash, and then there will be nothing, BUT God and His salvation.

However, "prophecy" while it gives us the grand outline for the future, and warns of deceptions coming as well as the major players in those deception, and gives us the promise of God's victory and full salvation -- yet prophecy's purpose is NOT a detailed blow by blow "future telling" thing.
Prophecy involves the whole "worship" aspect of trusting and following God, or trusting in something else that is in conflict with trusting and following God.

Consider all the prophecies pointing to Christ's first coming.
Did they predict a line of priests leading up to Caiaphas? No. They gave hundreds of "clues" by which people would recognize Christ when He came!
It is easy, POST A.D., to see them. But before those prophecies were fulfilled, the majority of them could easily be construed to mean something else -- to point to some "news" of the time previous. It wasn't until Jesus and the apostles linked them all together to the events of Christ's life that the realization of the astonishing accuracy of them all pointing to Christ was realized!

We must be careful too -- when the actual endtime fulfilment happens, those who know the important outline of the prophecies will see the accuracy in their fulfilment, but those who have broken up the grand grand outline and linked bits and pieces of them to previous "news" events will be confused. Whether Trump is impeached or continues really isn't the issue. Manipulating the prophecies again and again to fit the "news" isn't "present truth".

Now, a lot that you wrote above is IMPORTANT!!!
I can whole heartily agree with most of it!

We know --

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Men will surely set up their laws to counterwork the laws of God. They will seek to compel the consciences of others, and in their zeal to enforce these laws they will oppress their fellow men. {DA 763.2}
The warfare against God's law, which was begun in heaven, will be continued until the end of time. Every man will be tested. Obedience or disobedience is the question to be decided by the whole world. All will be called to choose between the law of God and the laws of men. Here the dividing line will be drawn. There will be but two classes. Every character will be fully developed; and all will show whether they have chosen the side of loyalty or that of rebellion. {DA 763.3}


And yes, that is in progress. The beasts of prophecy (both papal and U.S. national) are diligently working to bring in laws to that end.

Yes, it will be very hard for people with small children-- for parent's hearts find greater sorrow in the suffering of their children than in their own. These must keep their minds on the eternal life God has promised, even if it means doing the impossible -- allowing their children to suffer rather than turn against God.

And yes, debt can be a powerful slave master. We are admonished to be free of debt. Houses and lands are easily confiscated (even if we have full legal title) and we must not put our trust in them.
But we also have counsel to find homes out in the country where we can grow our own food...

There is a balance to providing for our essential needs in a modest responsible way in line with God's will, and giving our all to God's work.

I also fully agree -- being in the military service is very difficult with maintaining a life of obedience to God in any national crises situation, and will be utterly worse in the final crises.

And yes, I fully agree -- the final crises will soon come on the world with overwhelming surprise, we don't know the day or year, but it can come ANYTIME now, (but the four angels holding the winds of strife may hold them yet for a bit longer, we don't KNOW) but we need to make God first in everything every day of our lives.

Re: Concern over Presiednt Trump's Impeachment [Re: dedication] #189210
04/27/19 01:09 AM
04/27/19 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
I'm glad you wrote -- "Time is not the message, what is happening in our time that is the message"

I agree! ...


It is nice to find some common ground upon which we can agree after all these years. But it is very important to have a balance in our presentation.

There is just as much danger in spiritualizing away definite prophecies as there is in date setting. Adventism If not careful is heading toward the spiritualize away spectrum.

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Thousands who pride themselves upon their wisdom and independence regard it an evidence of weakness to place implicit confidence in the Bible; they think it a proof of superior talent and learning to cavil at the Scriptures, and to spiritualize and explain away their most important truths. {GC88 583.1}


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The secret [things belong] unto the LORD our God: but those [things which are] revealed [belong] unto us and to our children for ever, that [we] may do all the words of this law. Deuteronomy 29:29


Thus, when the LORD reveals anything that is to impacts us or our children, we would do well to earnestly seek to find it and understand it.

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The perils of the last days are upon us, and in our work we are to warn the people of the danger they are in. Let not the solemn scenes which prophecy has revealed, be left untouched. If our people were half awake, if they realized the nearness of the events portrayed by John in the Revelation, such a reformation would be made in our churches that many more from all churches would believe our message. We have no time to lose; God calls upon us to watch for souls as they that must give an account. Advance new principles, and crowd in the clear cut truth. It will be as a sword cutting both ways. But be not too ready to take a controversial attitude. There will be times when we must stand still and see the salvation of God. Let Daniel speak, let the Revelation speak, and tell what is truth. But whatever phase of the subject is presented, uplift Jesus as the center of all hope, "The Root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning Star."


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Are we to wait until the fulfillment of the prophecies of the end before we say anything concerning them? Of what value will our words be then? Shall we wait until God's judgments fall upon the transgressor before we tell him how to avoid them? Where is our faith in the word of God? Must we see things foretold come to pass before we will believe what He has said? In clear, distinct rays light has come to us, showing us that the great day of the Lord is near at hand, "even at the doors." Let us read and understand before it is too late. {9T 20.1}


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189390
05/15/19 08:36 AM
05/15/19 08:36 AM
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Wake up!

The clergy sex scandal will not go away. What appeared to be an isolated fornication scandal in Boston has morphed into a mega scandal in Pennsylvania and beyond with new allegations flaring up everywhere. The Roman Church that sprang from Christ’s Apostolic Church has become the priests’ brothel. Who would have imagined such a thing?

This fornication scandal is reminiscent of ancient Babylon, that mighty city that fell during a wild orgy. This development should not surprise anyone: In the past, the Roman Church’s spiritual fornication, embracing false doctrines, has led Bible students to conclude that she “has been in a fallen condition for many centuries.” “The term Babylon, derived from Babel, and signifying confusion, is applied in Scripture to the various forms of false or apostate religion.” All false and apostate religions are Babylon whether they are currently involved in this horrific sex scandal or not.

Is the Fornicating Roman Church Endtime Spiritual Babylon?
Though these immoral revelations surprised the masses, God was not broadsided by these abominations or anything that is coming. Through the Apostle John, God forewarned of Babylon’s fornication 2000 years before these headlines:

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Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication…Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies… Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues (Revelation 14:8; 18:2-4, ed).


In recent years, her teachings have become very popular with professed Christians. Most Protestants cannot discern the difference between Rome’s doctrines (that resulted in the death of their forefathers) from sound Bible doctrine. In spite of the popularity of false Roman doctrines, God has always had a people, who possessed the truth as it is in Jesus.

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Romanism is now regarded by Protestants with far greater favor than in former years. In those countries where Catholicism is not in the ascendency, and the papists are taking a conciliatory course in order to gain influence, there is an increasing indifference concerning the doctrines that separate the reformed churches from the papal hierarchy; the opinion is gaining ground, that, after all, we do not differ so widely upon vital points as has been supposed, and that a little concession on our part will bring us into a better understanding with Rome. The time was when Protestants placed a high value upon the liberty of conscience which has been so dearly purchased. They taught their children to abhor popery, and held that to seek harmony with Rome would be disloyalty to God. But how widely different are the sentiments now expressed.


Was the Roman Church ever God’s true Church? Yes, the Christian Church arose to do what the Jews had failed to do: Take Christ’s gospel to the world. Thus, the Christian Church was established at various cities in the ancient world and at the city of Rome; then the Roman Church morphed into a mega religio-political power after the Roman emperor appointed it to head all of Christendom.

Appointing the Bishop at Rome to be the head of all of Christendom changed the body of Christ into an agent of the state. The conflict: Two masters with conflicting agendas.
John predicted the fall of endtime Babylon, because of her fornication. The Roman Catholic Church has obviously fallen, because of her fornication/sex scandals! Is Bible prophecy now being fulfilled, or is this merely a coincidence?

John predicted the fall of endtime Babylon, because of her fornication. The Roman Catholic Church has obviously fallen, because of her fornication/sex scandals! Is Bible prophecy now being fulfilled, or is this merely a coincidence?

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The prophecies of Daniel and of John are to be understood; they interpret each other. They give to the world truths which everyone should understand. These prophecies are to be witnesses in the world. By their ful¬fillment in these last days, they will explain themselves.


Thus, prophecy is fulfilling: The Roman Church is fallen because of her fornication! Pope Benedict XVI’s resignation was linked to Babylon’s fornication scandal. How so? Prior to becoming Pope Benedict XVI, as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, he had been authorized to “handle abuse cases directly,” but he was “part of a culture of nonresponsibility, denial, legalistic foot-dragging and outright obstruction.” He “leaves behind a Church grappling with a global fallout from sex abuse and a personal legacy marred by allegations that he was instrumental in covering up that abuse.”

He had known about the priests’ fornications. As pope, his ritual usher was even “implicated in a gay prostitution ring… on the heels of major pedophilia scandals involving the abuse of children by priests in Ireland, Germany and the United States.” His failure to correct the pedophile priests’ overt fornications contradicted his pious profession of morality: “The Church cannot cease to proclaim that in accordance with God’s plans (cf. Mt 19: 3-9), marriage and the family are irreplaceable and permit no other alternatives.” Thus, prior to becoming pope, Benedict XVI had authority to act, but he did nothing. As pope, Benedict XVI’s reign ended in 2013 while the priests’ sex scandal was fulfilling the Second Angel’s Message of Revelation 14 as it was repeating in Revelation 18.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189392
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Babylon is said to be “the mother of harlots.” By her daughters must be symbolized churches that cling to her doctrines and traditions, and follow her example of sacrificing the truth and the approval of God, in order to form an unlawful alliance with the world. The message of Revelation 14, announcing the fall of Babylon must apply to religious bodies that were once pure and have become corrupt. Since this message follows the warning of the judgment, it must be given in the last days; therefore it cannot refer to the Roman Church alone, for that church has been in a fallen condition for many centuries. Furthermore, in the eighteenth chapter of the Revelation the people of God are called upon to come out of Babylon. According to this scripture, many of God’s people must still be in Babylon. And in what religious bodies are the greater part of the followers of Christ now to be found? Without doubt, in the various churches professing the Protestant faith. At the time of their rise these churches took a noble stand for God and the truth, and His blessing was with them. Even the unbelieving world was constrained to acknowledge the beneficent results that followed an acceptance of the principles of the gospel. In the words of the prophet to Israel: “Thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through My comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.” But they fell by the same desire which was the curse and ruin of Israel—the desire of imitating the practices and courting the friendship of the ungodly. “Thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown.” Ezekiel 16:14, 15. {GC 382.3}

Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: Mountain Man] #189400
05/17/19 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Babylon is said to be “the mother of harlots.” By her daughters must be symbolized churches that cling to her doctrines and traditions, and follow her example of sacrificing the truth and the approval of God, in order to form an unlawful alliance with the world. The message of Revelation 14, announcing the fall of Babylon must apply to religious bodies that were once pure and have become corrupt. Since this message follows the warning of the judgment, it must be given in the last days; therefore it cannot refer to the Roman Church alone, for that church has been in a fallen condition for many centuries. Furthermore, in the eighteenth chapter of the Revelation the people of God are called upon to come out of Babylon. According to this scripture, many of God’s people must still be in Babylon. And in what religious bodies are the greater part of the followers of Christ now to be found? Without doubt, in the various churches professing the Protestant faith. At the time of their rise these churches took a noble stand for God and the truth, and His blessing was with them. Even the unbelieving world was constrained to acknowledge the beneficent results that followed an acceptance of the principles of the gospel. In the words of the prophet to Israel: “Thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through My comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.” But they fell by the same desire which was the curse and ruin of Israel—the desire of imitating the practices and courting the friendship of the ungodly. “Thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown.” Ezekiel 16:14, 15. {GC 382.3}


This is true. And will be covered in more detail as this thread continues.


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Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189401
05/17/19 09:18 AM
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Flee Babylon!

Though Judaism was initially established by God and it is not outwardly linked to a fornication scandal, until it repents of its rejection of Jesus, the Messiah, it is Babylon! If Jews repent, accept Jesus Christ as their Savior, and follow Christ, He will take them back into His family:

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The branches were broken off…because of unbelief… God spared not the natural branches…If they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again (Romans 11:19-23).


Though Islam was not established by God as were the Jews and Christians, He will graft them into the family of Christ if they accept Him: The WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE! Likewise, Christians that have left their First love must repent and return to Christ! Refusing Heaven’s spiritual light has doomed generations. When truth/light moved to greater light, those who refused to follow it were left in darkness.

The religions of the Jews, Catholics, and Muslims have turned from light to become Spiritual Babylon. Now God’s faithful people must love them to Jesus. But if the people of these great religions persist in their errors: They will make it clear that they are satisfied to only have a form of godliness:

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Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away (2 Timothy 3:5).


As their spiritual leaders have led them away from Christ (the Light of the world), it is now happening in the Protestant Churches. They are giving up cherished Truths to go back to the Roman Catholic Mother Church. Do they see nothing wrong with the Roman Church or its doctrines? Do they not see its fornications? Do they not hear God calling His people out of fornicating Babylon?

When the Protestant churches failed to see the Roman Catholic priests’ mega sex scandal, the media exposed it. While the churches turn a blind eye, what is happening?

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June 27, 2015 WASHINGTON — …The Supreme Court ruled by a 5-to-4 vote on Friday that the Constitution guarantees a right to same-sex marriage. “No longer may this liberty be denied,” Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote …


When the Supreme court of the United States of America ruled in favor of homosexual marriage/fornication, none of the justices professed the Protestant values of the founding fathers. Three of the justices were Jewish: Breyer, Kagan, and Ginsburg. The majority of the Justices were Catholic: Alito, Kennedy, Roberts, Sotomayor, and Thomas. Gorsuch was raised Catholic, but he currently attends an Episcopal church. Thus, the landmark decision by the majority of the Court’s Justices on gay marriage was impacted by the education that they had received at the hands of Catholic priests, the very class involved in Babylon’s fornications. And the decision that the Court reached has juxtaposed the Law of the land in Protestant America against the Law of God.

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On July 30, 1956, President Eisenhower signed into law the establishment of “In God We Trust” as our national motto. But it is more than just a motto. It is our country’s foundation and an important part of our identity as Americans.


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Whatever we once were, we’re no longer a Christian nation. At least not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, and a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers…


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…Our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and Republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. (1889)


Six of the nine Justices, who decided that gay marriage issue, have declared that America is no longer a Christian nation that is subject to the Law of God: America is Political Babylon. And shortly after their judgment was rendered, President Obama, “welcomed it!”

As God’s word had foretold, the kings of the earth committed fornication with Babylon. On 26 June 2015, the US joined eighteen other nations in recognizing gay marriage as the law of the land: Babylon’s priests’ fornication is now their standard for intimacy within the marriage covenant.

The kings of the earth (the rulers in America that make, interpret, and enforce our laws) have committed fornication with Babylon while we sat by with our hands folded. As we beheld, prophecy was fulfilled in our day!

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All nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her (Revelation 18:3).


As the Scripture has foretold, it has come about in our day: the kings of the earth have committed fornication with Babylon. The priests have fornicated (men with boys), in spite of the pope’s public position, “The Church cannot cease to proclaim that in accordance with God’s plans (cf. Mt 19: 3-9), marriage and the family are irreplaceable and permit no other alternatives.” And America’s leaders have exalted the priests’ alternative to the marriage covenant in defiance of God’s specific warning that this is an abomination:

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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them (Leviticus 20:13).


It is not up to Christians to condemn any of the folks that have been entrapped by their lusts, for God will ultimately judge His people and He will render His verdict upon those who disobey His directives. “For the LORD shall judge His people…If I whet My glittering sword, and Mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to Mine enemies, and will reward them that hate Me” (Deuteronomy 32:36, 41). Yet no one, who has been deceived by lust, needs to die. Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery, “Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more” (John 8:11). There is hope in Jesus for those who recognize their sins, repent of them, and turn away from iniquity (known sin).

Some assume that this ban against homosexuality is no longer valid because it is found in the Old Testament near the ban against eating shellfish. Since many Christians eat shellfish, they reason that both bans are no longer binding. Remember the old adage: Two wrongs do not make a right. Instead of making homosexuality less of a sin, the context affirms that eating shellfish is wrong! By the state legalizing gay marriage, the sexual intimacy that simulates the normal sexuality in a marriage is extended to gay couples, and their fornication takes on the appearance of social acceptability.

God is not singling out those who are deceived by gay sex. He has the same warning for heterosexuals that are deceived by lust. “The adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death” (Leviticus 20:13). In fact, Leviticus 20:1-23 lists many sexual practices that God abhors.

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As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die…? (Ezekiel 33:11, ed).


The shellfish argument is a red herring defense designed to justify remaining in sin; to excuse sinful behavior, rather than to acknowledge it as sin and repent of it. Jesus did not do away with the Old Testament’s health regulations or its prohibition against immorality. As eating unclean foods and immorality was unhealthy for Jews, it is unhealthy for Christians. The coming of the Christian dispensation did not change anyone’s metabolism or their urge to procreate. Jesus clearly said: “If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead” (Luke 16:31). Are Christians hearing Moses and being persuaded to abstain from immorality because they are listening to him? Are they choosing to eat what Jesus ate?

Jesus authorized Peter, “Whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven” (Matthew 16:19). Later, Peter was commanded, “Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean… This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven” (Acts 10:13-16, ed). The unclean animals remained bound when they went back to heaven, because Peter refused to unbind them or eat them.

An aside: Because Peter let all the unclean animals remain bound in the vessel, there is no justification for the Christian to eat swine. Peter did not unbind it. It remains on the unclean food list in Leviticus. Rather than to clean pigs for human consumption, Jesus commanded devils to go into the swine/pigs (cf Matthew 8:30-32; Mark 5:11-13; Luke 8:32-33). And Paul teaches us, “Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils” (1 Corinthians 10:21). How can Christians eat the Lord’s Supper and eat swine’s flesh after Jesus commanded the devils to enter it?

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The devils besought Him, saying, If Thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. And He said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine (Matthew 8:31-32, ed).


The Supreme Court’s decision in favor of homosexual marriage makes the law of the land contradict the truth in God’s word. Putting Christ’s teachings at odds with the laws of America (historically a Christian nation) is polarizing its government against Christ’s people. “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation” (Matthew 12:25). One nation indivisible under God has become a nation divided along extreme lines. Rebellion against the laws of the state has consequences, as does rebellion against the Law of God.

Each one must choose to obey God or to rebel against Him: To believe and follow the Plan of Salvation exactly as God has revealed it or to deviate from the Plan of Salvation according to personal whims. There is no middle ground. Obeying God is not legalism or working our way to Heaven: Obedience to God testifies of our love and gratitude to our Savior for His matchless sacrifice on our behalf. On the other hand, rebellion against God is choosing to live in Babylon.

Strict obedience poses a significant problem for people, who believe the popular teaching that all religions lead to God: Especially the three great religions that are linked to Abraham, a servant of the only true God. The popular belief is that all religions are just different means to the same end, i.e., that one religion is just as good as another. Those, who believe that lie, resist changing because they do not think it is necessary: A satanic doctrine designed to deceive and ruin souls, who are not grounded in God’s word. But Satan has been relatively successful in his assault on the Church.

With Bible prophecy fast fulfilling around us, the identity of Babylon is so clear, but billions of people have not heard God’s call to flea Babylon. If they have heard His call, they may not have a clue what He is talking about: Calling them from apostate religions that may once have served God.

When truth encounters error, choose to follow truth. Pride makes it difficult. Pride questions the one bringing the truth, “Why do you think you are right and I am wrong?” Or: “What makes you think you are better than me?”

When the Roman Church encountered the Reformation, not all of its members saw the need to Reform the Mother Church. And while the media is exposing Papal Babylon, not all of the Protestants see the danger at hand as evidenced by the fact that many Protestant churches are reuniting with Rome while God is calling: Come out of her My people!

God invites us to reason together (cf Isaiah 1:18), not to put down the beliefs cherished by others, but to study together that we may grow into the unity that Jesus wanted for His people. When God calls people out of Babylon, He is calling them to seek for the truth as it is in Jesus.

The choice is clear: 1) Will we follow God as He leads, or 2) will we do our own thing (whether it is to explain away a thus saith the Lord or to deceive ourselves and to remain willfully ignorant). It does not matter the way we rebel against God; the consequences are deadly.

The Protestant Churches, the daughters of the Roman Mother Church, arose to take Christ’s love to the world. In time, they too apostatized from the distinct doctrines that made them Reformers. As the Jews left their first love, and the Roman Church left her first love, the Protestant Churches have left their first love. This is evident by the fact that while the media is revealing that the Catholic priest’s fornication scandal is more pervasive than imagined, Protestants are normalizing gay marriage, and Protestant Churches are reuniting with the Roman Mother Church while overlooking God’s command: Come out of her My people!


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Concern over President Trump's Impeachment [Re: His child] #189404
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The title of this thread suggests President Trump will be impeached. Why?

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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
The title of this thread suggests President Trump will be impeached. Why?


I'm praying that he stays as long as he is able. (NOT pro or con) just remembering the old adage about jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

If you will bear with me, I will get to you question BUT there are some points that will make the answer more clear as we cover some of the background that will lead to the very answer that you seek.

But it won't be my answer, it will be what the Bible says on that topic.


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