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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/02/19 05:36 PM
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What does Ex 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
mean to you? So... do you worship God on Saturdays ONLY? Is it a sin to worship God on Mondays? ///
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/02/19 06:25 PM
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So... do you worship God on Saturdays ONLY? Is it a sin to worship God on Mondays?
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/02/19 06:32 PM
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I really don't think that's what Kland was asking, What does it mean to you that God set apart a special day each week and rested -- He made that time holy, He blessed that time. And He made that time for "mankind".
Your question kind of misses the point -- of course we are to be in a vital worshipful connection with our God all week long as we do all our work and everything that we need to do. But like in every relationship -- just because a person loves and communicates and does things with their spouse every day of the week , doesn't mean they shouldn't set all their duties aside and just spend special designated time together. In fact the daily walk and experience is what makes the special set apart time something they really look forward to.
God set special time -- Do your work during the six days, but put all that daily work aside on the seventh day, it is set apart for holy purposes.
And yes -- we need a vital relationship with our God all week long -- without it we won't be in condition to suddenly give him all our time and worship on the 7th.
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/02/19 07:28 PM
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Paul, in the verse quoted earlier isn't talking about "taking up the tithe" at all. He is actually telling people to start saving up some money "by them" in their homes, so they could add it to the "ADRA" fund, when he came to collect it. Nor is there any hint that this is a Sunday church meeting.
I think the principle here, is that giving should be planned, and Sabbath should not be our "financial accounting" day -- that should be done prior. Many don't do any "accounting" when it comes to offerings, they hear an appeal and just give what ever change they might have in their pockets, but its better to go home and after the Sabbath, do some budgeting and set apart some funds for God's work. Actually, my personal take on the scripture in 1 Cor. 16 falls more in line with "systematic giving". In our culture, most of us live on income that comes in the form of monthly payments. So -- at the first of each month, when that payment comes in, we figure out the tithe, go through the list of offerings we want to contribute to that month and set the full amount apart to put in the offering plate the next Sabbath. As to taking up offerings on the Sabbath -- Doesn't scripture say we are to bring our gifts to the Sanctuary? (Ps. 96:8)
This has always concerned me, as it was my understanding that the offering by the Jews was not done on Sabbath, do you know if it was a rule or tradition? When I look at the giving patterns in the old Testament it can be a bit confusing. They had several different types of "tithe". Being an agricultural society, much of the "tithe" was not in money, but in livestock and produce. They had various laws as to where and who received those different "tithes". Some for the Levites, some for the poor, and a "second tithe" that they would eat and share with other pilgrims at the feasts. For some situations it was permissible to render the "tithe" into money and bring that to give, or buy whatever the tithe was meant to provide -- I've never really studied into all this, just read some and it sounded pretty complicated. The rabbis argue over the details now that the whole temple system is not functioning. It was obviously a different system from ours -- it wasn't simply bringing money to church. For many it was literally storing up the "tithe" at home, till they could go to the designated place at the designated time to give it. There was even a third year program, when they would bring all that was "designated to Lord" out of their places and give it. (See Deut 26:12-13) It's probably true that most of this was not done on a Sabbath. But what are the principles that do concern us in our day? My personal opinion on this matter is that we should do all our accounting before the Sabbath. Know what is to be given to the Lord and have it ready before the Sabbath. I don't see anything wrong in bringing our gifts to the Sanctuary on the Sabbath and slipping it into the offering plate, But probably, "due certain types of offering appeals" and lack of planning, many people don't have their "gifts" ready, and do their "accounting" right there in the church. There are things done concerning money that seem out of place in God's sanctuary -- things that involve buying and selling. So I can understand your concern.
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/03/19 11:31 AM
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What does Ex 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
mean to you? So... do you worship God on Saturdays ONLY? Is it a sin to worship God on Mondays? /// I did not make comment nor statement on the passage. I asked, what does it mean to you?
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/03/19 02:06 PM
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/05/19 06:57 PM
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How many steak knives?
...since I can't get an answer of what your opinion on the passage is....
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/12/19 12:47 PM
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Deut 14:28 "At the end of every third year you shall bring out the tithe of your produce of that year and store it up within your gates.
1Cor 16:2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.
Neither one says "give". It says "store". Giving in both cases comes at a later time.
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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07/12/19 03:40 PM
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Deut 14:28 "At the end of every third year you shall bring out the tithe of your produce of that year and store it up within your gates.
1Cor 16:2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.
Neither one says "give". It says "store". Giving in both cases comes at a later time. Do you live in an agrarian village? Why are you using Deut. 14 as a guide so exactly? And 1 Cor. 16 was about charity. not tithing. You are dealing with a matter that is proving to be too difficult for you to understand, let alone provide any guidance. ///
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Re: Paying Tithe on the Sabbath
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