James all of what you have said from the Bible is true. THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE. BUT: If Jesus paid it all at Calvary and there was no need for Him to confess our names before the Father, why did Jesus PROMISE:

Revelation 3:5 "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."

I was not born when Jesus died on Calvary. I had not even tried to overcome anything at that time. As being yet unborn, how could a case be made before the angels as to if I would claim Jesus as my Savior?

The Biblical sequence is the sinner offers the lamb. The blood records the confession of sin and the sinner's sincerity to accept the atonement through the blood. The blood is placed under the altar until the altar is cleansed Then if the repentant sinner is sincere (he will be demonstrating it on Yom Kippur...during the earthly sanctuary period and by his faithfulness during the heavenly sanctuary period). In the Christian dispensation. the LAMB was Jesus and it is not necessary to bring a sacrificial animal to an earthly priest in the plan of Salvation. In fact, to reestablish the sacrificial system would be to deny the all-sufficiency of the blood of Jesus. Then Jesus confesses the sinner as forgiven before God and the angels: God accepts Jesu's testimony and the forgiven sinner's name is retained in the book of life.

What part of that scenario is not biblical?

I looked, but nothing about when the Jewish year started. Guess I'm ignoring nothing that was presented. And where you made a word play on English personal pronouns, Last "trump" shall sound...


I'd go with the W is a duo U. But you had to sneak in "omega W". Kind of like saying, Pence is for God's people....

Kland,
On my statement, I am in error. Please accept my apology.
Sometimes some material is common knowledge or readily available and does not require more than a passing comment.

I was working on the post that I thought I had shared when I got sidetracked with your question. I have not posted the material that I had prepared.

This is the comment that I thought I had posted here.



I have a Gregorian-Hebrew calendar that aligns the Hebrew holidays with the Days of the week that we generally use and the months of both systems are synchronized on it.

If you question the fact about when Yom Kippur occurred in 2001, please feel free to look it up wherever you like. And if you should find that the day that I stated is incorrect, I will gladly examine your research. Since it is fairly recent history, there are many resources that have that information available.

our little aside dose not affect the facts in my original presentation. They have not changed. You can easily verify them if you question them as you can verify that the Greeks use a W as an omega symbol in the lower case. But If you want to challenge what you refuse to believe, it is your prerogative.

Anytime information is presented in a systematic format, it is important to understand the chain of data presented. If the chain is incorrect, it cannot lead to the correct answer / conclusion. If the data chain is correct but challenged erroneously, those who cannot see the facts will not be able to follow them to the correct conclusion.

more later
Christian regards

• That's your problem. You lay much stock in a LITERAL READING of Rev. 3:5, "He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels." But consider ...
   
• Rev. 3:12, "He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God ..." Do you plan on being a literal pillar in a temple? Or this ...
   
• Rev. 3:21, "To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne." How massively long is that throne that it would accommodate billions of people sitting side by side; and over whom are they presiding when everyone of them is sitting on the long, long throne?

It is a foolish thing to base your fundamental beliefs on a literal reading of symbolic scripture. Here now, you are going around telling people that that in heaven they would be turned into dead stone pillars and placed on an extremely long throne in heaven. Does that even begin to make sense? No! Therefore, repent and believe the truth. There is no such thing as an investigative judgment.

Blotting out of books and confessing of names before angels do not refer to any heavenly solemn ceremony, but speak of the willingness of God to forgive the over-comers and to make of them a nation (a register of citizens by name) like He did with Israel of old. That's all.

There is no such thing as poring over endless pages of a big fat book with a spying glass, looking for sins, by the High Priest on the Day of Atonement. Speak the truth; and people would believe you. Lie to them, and all your credibility goes down the drain.

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I am thinking that this is becoming a predominate topic in an off-topic thread and should probably be discussed in its own separate thread.

I guess you're right. It's more of a foundation issue to his prognostication rather than about the latter itself. There is also a parallel discussion going on about the Greek alphabet between His Child (OP) and Kland and then there is another about the meanings of words. His Child has skipped over these fundamental concepts in a strange haste to be prophetic.

It's like watching a child learn to walk. In his eagerness to reach across the room, he keeps stumbling and falling, either not having first mastered the skill of one step at a time, one foot then the other ... or being simply indifferent about it ... or assuming that he had it all figured out ... until he is put to the test.

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The aside was essentially a waste of time.
But if others would like to chase that rabbit, in another thread,
perhaps some good will come of it?

And when is the 7th Jewish month? Which becomes, when is the 1st Jewish month?

Can you prove from the Bible, and not from many other resources, when the Jewish year starts?

You chain IS incorrect.
In fact, the first link is not even there.

If you think that I have spoken in error: Prove it. Show us.
So far the only thing that you have proved is that you create doubt when you do not like truth.
Beware That is the technique that Satan used in Heaven when he led his rebellion against God.
If I am in error, I want to know my error, so I can search more diligently for truth.
But you manifest an unteachable doubting spirit.

The Bible study was briefly paused to review everything and to double check the facts.
The review is almost done and the study will soon be concluded
With the proclamation of the Third Angel's Message
When the power spoken of in the 30th verse is in place the final events will be rapid ones.

Show us the truth then.

Your error is outsourcing your thinking to others. Others differ widely. Is truth ever determined by a majority vote?

Think for yourself. Show from the Bible when the Jewish year starts.

It appears that why you have yet to even attempt to show it, is because you have never given it a thought.

If you are making prophetic statements based upon the Jewish year, then would it be out of the way for you to at least make an effort to show when the Jewish year starts from the Bible?
That's not asking too much, is it?