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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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Multiply, fill the earth, and then move to another planet and do it again - for eternity. No marriage or recreation in Heaven during the Millennium. However, there is nothing in the Bible that says things will not resume how they were before the Rebellion.
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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I always present it as being children of God, with the child-like love and affection for each other. When the members see the children's almost instant joy and happiness as they meet and bond with other children, its not hard to comprehend.
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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Multiply, fill the earth, and then move to another planet and do it again - for eternity. No marriage or recreation in Heaven during the Millennium. However, there is nothing in the Bible that says things will not resume how they were before the Rebellion. Sounds reasonable and hopeful. However, the verses in question don't target heaven. It says, resurrection. Lu 20:35 "But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;
Mt 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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Multiply, fill the earth, and then move to another planet and do it again - for eternity. No marriage or recreation in Heaven during the Millennium. However, there is nothing in the Bible that says things will not resume how they were before the Rebellion.
Chap. 361 - Speculations Concerning the New Earth
When they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. Mark 12:25. {Mar 369.1}
There are men today who express their belief that there will be marriages and births in the new earth, but those who believe the Scriptures cannot accept such doctrines. The doctrine that children will be born in the new earth is not a part of the "sure word of prophecy." The words of Christ are too plain to be misunderstood. They should forever settle the question of marriages and births in the new earth. Neither those who shall be raised from the dead, nor those who shall be translated without seeing death, will marry or be given in marriage. They will be as the angels of God, members of the royal family. {Mar 369.2}
I would say to those who hold views contrary to this plain declaration of Christ: Upon such matters silence is eloquence. It is presumption to indulge in suppositions and theories regarding matters that God has not made known to us in His word. We need not enter into speculation regarding our future state. . . . {Mar 369.3}
"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season." Do not bring to the foundation wood, and hay, and stubble--your own surmisings and speculations, which can benefit no one. {Mar 369.4}
Christ withheld no truths essential to our salvation. Those things that are revealed are for us and our children, but we are not to allow our imagination to frame doctrines concerning things not revealed. {Mar 369.5}
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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 "I am the Α and the Ω, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:8///
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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"The doctrine that children will be born in the new earth is not a part of the "'sure word of prophecy.'" A Universe without children growing up and being amazed and thrilled as they learn about God, others, themselves, and the Universe around them is . . . hard to imagine with joy.
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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08/06/19 12:06 PM
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Multiply, fill the earth, and then move to another planet and do it again - for eternity. No marriage or recreation in Heaven during the Millennium. However, there is nothing in the Bible that says things will not resume how they were before the Rebellion.
Chap. 361 - Speculations Concerning the New Earth
When they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. Mark 12:25. {Mar 369.1}
There are men today who express their belief that there will be marriages and births in the new earth, but those who believe the Scriptures cannot accept such doctrines. The doctrine that children will be born in the new earth is not a part of the "sure word of prophecy." The words of Christ are too plain to be misunderstood. They should forever settle the question of marriages and births in the new earth. Neither those who shall be raised from the dead, nor those who shall be translated without seeing death, will marry or be given in marriage. They will be as the angels of God, members of the royal family. {Mar 369.2}
I would say to those who hold views contrary to this plain declaration of Christ: Upon such matters silence is eloquence. It is presumption to indulge in suppositions and theories regarding matters that God has not made known to us in His word. We need not enter into speculation regarding our future state. . . . {Mar 369.3}
"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season." Do not bring to the foundation wood, and hay, and stubble--your own surmisings and speculations, which can benefit no one. {Mar 369.4}
Christ withheld no truths essential to our salvation. Those things that are revealed are for us and our children, but we are not to allow our imagination to frame doctrines concerning things not revealed. {Mar 369.5} Well supported, Daryl. Jesus Christ and Ellen White were simply too plain to be mistaken on this issue. Their statements should end all further speculation on this question. Praise the Lord for a "plain 'thus saith the Lord'"! Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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08/06/19 12:46 PM
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"The doctrine that children will be born in the new earth is not a part of the "'sure word of prophecy.'" A Universe without children growing up and being amazed and thrilled as they learn about God, others, themselves, and the Universe around them is . . . hard to imagine with joy. The point, however, is that YOU are that child. To the angels of God, you are a source of continual pleasure and conversation. 1 Peter 1:2Secondly, a world made new would be so vast and varied that you will always find something to enjoy. Think of music. Since time immemorial, people have been inventing songs and still, amazingly, somewhere, somehow, somebody manages to come up with something new that others immediately download and enjoy. The arts and sciences are full of such surprises. And this: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him." 1 Cor. 2:9 ///
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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The words allos and heteros in Greek characters (from web to web copy works):
Original Word: ἄλλος, η, ον
Original Word: ἕτερος, α, ον
And some Spanish: ?Qui?n quisiera hablar s?lo en espa?ol? D?melo. (Copied from Green Cochoa's keyboard input and doesn't work due to his keyboard's different code page -- for reference)
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