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Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192307
04/18/20 09:28 PM
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A quote from "If History Rhymes" April 1, 2020
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At least one societal change resulting from the quarantine could do wonders to reinvigorate our national sense of family, faith, and community. Let?s give serious thought to reinstating at least some of the time-honored Sunday closure laws, sort of a one-day-per-week modified stay-at-home request. Such action would rededicate our society to a regular day of rest, family meals, civic associations, and religious observance.

By rededicating each Sunday as ?a common day of rest,? we would say that the life of America is much more than never-pausing commerce and ever-grinding bureaucracy. We would proclaim that the heart of the nation transcends consumerism and looms larger than even the biggest government. We would emphasize that the real value in a country comes not from its GNP or tax collections, but from families, faith, communities, that it comes from ?We the people.?

Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: dedication] #192309
04/19/20 12:46 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me, how convincingly evil wears the cloak of goodness and reason. It is small wonder that the majority will be deceived. May God, who is able to keep us from falling, open our eyes and increase our faith.


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192318
04/20/20 10:57 AM
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Yes, let's remember how well blessed we were in this time, and set aside sunday each week.

To remember:
- lost jobs,
- tanked economy,
- can't meet together,
- no toilet paper!

Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192324
04/22/20 09:03 PM
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Yes, the double talk is truly amazing.

It's fascinating to see how many tweets and messages are floating around on the internet saying how good this "lock down" is for families and re-establishing family time --
O.K -- some are finding some truth to this.

BUT for many people this time is like a great series of walls being built to isolate them from all people.
What about those that don't have family members living in the same household, and find themselves isolated and alone?
What about those who do have family but don't get along -- one social representative reported a 300% increase in calls for help in regard to domestic violence since these isolation laws have come!
And it is a proven fact that financial problems most often cause family problems as well.

Anyone who thinks government should enforce family time and isolating laws and worship laws, and other laws infringing on basic human right, freedoms, has lost all appreciation for the great freedoms our forefathers fought to establish..

Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: dedication] #192327
04/23/20 03:18 AM
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Jamaica is the latest country to use Wuhan Flu as justification to call for a Sunday Law (and a cashless economy)! Fun fact: the Jamaican PM is a Seventh Day Adventist...
https://youtu.be/DhghpqChENI


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192329
04/23/20 04:38 PM
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How do you really know that the PM of Jamaica is a SDA???

Have you done some sort of a fact check to see if that is really true???


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192331
04/23/20 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ProdigalOne
Jamaica is the latest country to use Wuhan Flu as justification to call for a Sunday Law (and a cashless economy)! Fun fact: the Jamaican PM is a Seventh Day Adventist...
https://youtu.be/DhghpqChENI

The crack pots that put out these videos have no idea what they are talking about; they certainly DO NOT speak for The Adventist Church.

The Jamaican Conference has this to say:

Flexible Work Arrangements

(Prepared and published by the Public Affairs and Religious Liberty Department of Jamaica Union Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. 125 Manchester Road. P.O. Box 122, Mandeville, Jamaica)

from pg 2
The normal work week should consist of 40 hours and all seven days of the week would be possible working days.

IMPORTANT POINTS TO NOTE

1. In general, the Bill, when passed, will mean that Sunday will no longer have any special status in law, but
will become a normal workday.
2. Companies will not be forced to implement FWAs?they are not obligated to enact it.
3. This is not a NATIONAL SUNDAY LAW. In fact it is quite the opposite in that there is no longer any law
that hinders commercial activities on Sundays ie., the sacredness that once shrouded Sunday has been
removed.
4. The Adventist Church is not opposed to Flexible Work Arrangements. In fact, many of our members have
had to adopt. This form of flexibility already?.working extra hours and on Sundays?in order to get their
Sabbaths off for worship.
5. The Adventist Church does not believe any day should be legislated and set aside for worship because
this would not constitute Religious Liberty and is a breach of Section 17 of the Constitution which states
that ?every person shall have the right to freedom of religion including the freedom to change his religion
and the right to manifest and propagate his religion in worship, teaching, practice and observance.?

5/ What are the legal working hours for employees in Jamaica?
https://epicjamaica.net/legal-working-hours-for-employees-in-jamaica/

The Employment (Flexible Work Arrangements) (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act was signed into law on November 24, 2014.

Prior to the passing of this act, Jamaican workers were entitled to work 8 hour shifts (10 hours in some cases). Under the new law, the ordinary work week should consist of 40 hours, and employees and their employers can agree to work up to 12 hours in a 24-hour period.

Another big change under the law is the removal of the special treatment given to Sundays. Formerly, most employers paid a double rate if the employee was required to work on a Sunday. The new law allows that ordinary work week can now include Sundays without any overtime pay requirement. All 7 days of the week are now considered working days.

We are warned in so many places to stay away from these crack-pot prophecy mongers. "Many false prophets" is what scripture calls them.


"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance."

"There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8)
https://www.lightintheclouds.net/word

Sincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit


- The Wanderer
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: Daryl] #192334
04/24/20 01:50 AM
04/24/20 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
How do you really know that the PM of Jamaica is a SDA???

Have you done some sort of a fact check to see if that is really true???



"New Prime Minister of Jamaica is an Adventist ? Andrew Holness"

"Adventists currently hold both of the top leadership positions in Jamaica. The Governor General, Sir Patrick Allen, is also an Adventist and a graduate of Andrews University. He was the union conference president in Jamaica, the national leader of the Adventist denomination, when he was appointed by Queen Elizabeth II. He resigned from denominational employment to take office but continues to be an Adventist minister."

https://atoday.org/new-prime-minister-of-jamaica-is-an-adventist-andrew-holness/

"ADVENTIST BECOMES PRIME MINISTER OF JAMAICA".

"In a ceremony at King?s House on Sunday afternoon, the new prime minister did not swear on the bible as is the custom because of his faith. Rather, as is allowed under the constitution, Holness ?declared and affirmed? due allegiance to Jamaica and his intention to carry out his duties as Prime Minister of Jamaica.

Seventh-day Adventists currently hold both of the top positions in Jamaican government. The Governor General, Sir Patrick Allen, Ph.D., is also an Adventist and a graduate of Andrews University. "

https://spectrummagazine.org/articl...adventist-becomes-prime-minister-jamaica



"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: The Wanderer] #192335
04/24/20 02:06 AM
04/24/20 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Wanderer
Originally Posted by ProdigalOne
Jamaica is the latest country to use Wuhan Flu as justification to call for a Sunday Law (and a cashless economy)! Fun fact: the Jamaican PM is a Seventh Day Adventist...
https://youtu.be/DhghpqChENI

The crack pots that put out these videos have no idea what they are talking about; they certainly DO NOT speak for The Adventist Church.

The Jamaican Conference has this to say:

Flexible Work Arrangements

(Prepared and published by the Public Affairs and Religious Liberty Department of Jamaica Union Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. 125 Manchester Road. P.O. Box 122, Mandeville, Jamaica)

from pg 2
The normal work week should consist of 40 hours and all seven days of the week would be possible working days.

IMPORTANT POINTS TO NOTE

1. In general, the Bill, when passed, will mean that Sunday will no longer have any special status in law, but
will become a normal workday.
2. Companies will not be forced to implement FWAs?they are not obligated to enact it.
3. This is not a NATIONAL SUNDAY LAW. In fact it is quite the opposite in that there is no longer any law
that hinders commercial activities on Sundays ie., the sacredness that once shrouded Sunday has been
removed.
4. The Adventist Church is not opposed to Flexible Work Arrangements. In fact, many of our members have
had to adopt. This form of flexibility already?.working extra hours and on Sundays?in order to get their
Sabbaths off for worship.
5. The Adventist Church does not believe any day should be legislated and set aside for worship because
this would not constitute Religious Liberty and is a breach of Section 17 of the Constitution which states
that ?every person shall have the right to freedom of religion including the freedom to change his religion
and the right to manifest and propagate his religion in worship, teaching, practice and observance.?

5/ What are the legal working hours for employees in Jamaica?
https://epicjamaica.net/legal-working-hours-for-employees-in-jamaica/

The Employment (Flexible Work Arrangements) (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act was signed into law on November 24, 2014.

Prior to the passing of this act, Jamaican workers were entitled to work 8 hour shifts (10 hours in some cases). Under the new law, the ordinary work week should consist of 40 hours, and employees and their employers can agree to work up to 12 hours in a 24-hour period.

Another big change under the law is the removal of the special treatment given to Sundays. Formerly, most employers paid a double rate if the employee was required to work on a Sunday. The new law allows that ordinary work week can now include Sundays without any overtime pay requirement. All 7 days of the week are now considered working days.

We are warned in so many places to stay away from these crack-pot prophecy mongers. "Many false prophets" is what scripture calls them.




I am confident that you did not watch the video that I posted. If you had, you would have seen that it contained a video of Prime Minister Andrew Holness outlining his plan for the removal of weekday lockdown restrictions in favour of a one day a week lockdown on every Sunday!
It is also interesting to note that Prime Minister Andrew Holness video address was given in April 2020! I notice that your posted link rebuttal is dated November 2014, almost six years ago. You really should do more research, before calling men of God "crackpots"...


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Sunday Law Enacted In Panama! [Re: ProdigalOne] #192344
04/25/20 06:08 AM
04/25/20 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ProdigalOne

I am confident that you did not watch the video that I posted. If you had, you would have seen that it contained a video of Prime Minister Andrew Holness outlining his plan for the removal of weekday lockdown restrictions in favour of a one day a week lockdown on every Sunday!
It is also interesting to note that Prime Minister Andrew Holness video address was given in April 2020! I notice that your posted link rebuttal is dated November 2014, almost six years ago. You really should do more research, before calling men of God "crackpots"...

"These men of God" as you call them are full of hot air when they say the kind of religious incantations and insults to God and His church that they are parroting from Satan, their filthy "message." in this video.

Again, the crack pot doctrines and accusers come out.

Even in this article, posted just the other day, that does talk about Sunday-related legislation, where the Jamaican Trade Unions are pushing it, there is nothing about "Sunday Laws!!" In fact those unions have been pushing for this for 20 years!

He said the Labour Contract Act also provides for a full day of rest, preferably Sunday and that the Protection Employment Act ?states in part that there is no misconduct if one?s absence on Saturday or Sunday is for relious worship Fear-Mongers purporting to be Adventists use articles like this to try and say something thats not true.

I highly doubt, going by your posts here that you have the faintest idea on what "the sunday question" even is. As long as we blindly accept this kind of crack-pot theology we will suffer under their feigned concern for "truth" just like anyone who is a slave would suffer.


"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance."

"There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8)
https://www.lightintheclouds.net/word

Sincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit


- The Wanderer
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