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Plandemic? #192296
04/17/20 08:03 AM
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Was the Wuhan Flu planned?

https://youtu.be/ZphK_CMUbKg


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192401
05/08/20 01:02 AM
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The video was removed -- no longer at that site.

Wuhan Institute of Virology, has long specialized in researching coronaviruses -- like ones found in bats. Corona viruses are not a new thing, they've been around for some time. The virus is not made by scientists, it did originate in nature. However, scientists are manipulating the corona viruses in the lab, causing it to mutate or adapt to different things.

The charge is that they "encouraged" it in some scientific way to be capable to infect humans, whereas before it was mainly in specific animals.

So even though the media is loudly saying Wuhan Institute of Virology had no part in this pandemic, yet the very fact that the pandemic began in Wuhan causes questions.

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192410
05/10/20 01:00 AM
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It is not surprising that the video has been censored. It must have been fake news. LOL
How long until declaring the 3 Angels Message is censored everywhere as racist hate speech and fake news?

It really doesn?t matter whether the WuFlu is man made or not. The confluence of so many disparate events: the proximity of the only Chinese level-4 biosafety lab to ground zero, the emergency "contingency" plans released six weeks before the start of WuFlu (see the 201 conference in NY https://youtu.be/AoLw-Q8X174), well known long term globalist strategies, the incredibly rapid and coordinated consolidation of power taking place in numerous nations right now, along with the breathtaking volume of orchestrated, multi-platform, censorship, indicate that the disease was almost certainly released deliberately.

The fact that the technocratic establishment leadership is acting so openly now, seems to indicate that they have everything in place. The large number of people willingly consenting to the outright theft of their human rights is likely the reaction they have been waiting for. With the papacy acting as a moral unification cheerleader and the United States increasingly flexing its military might worldwide and instituting direct financing of Protestant/Catholic churches (including the SDA! https://www.christianitytoday.com/n...ans-churches-payroll-sba-ppp-grants.html), the next phase of the satanic plan is imminent.


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192422
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Maybe suggest they use d.tube site for hosting videos.

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192424
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Something about Fauci's grin I find annoying. Maybe because of what he represents and plans to do to people. Or maybe, what I just came across.
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when I went both to a Jesuit high school and a Jesuit college,

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192427
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When cancer struck a member of our family, we subscribed to an internet program called "The truth about Cancer".
This same group also started studying about vaccines, and put together an internet program called "The truth about Vaccines" and recently added "the truth about Gates".

Well -- revealing those truths was considered against community and they were subjected to cyber attack.
Their Social Media Accounts were suspended. TTAC and TTAV and their personal account. (Facebook, Instagram, twitter)
And their website servers were bombarded with a DDoS attack of 150,000 requests per minute for 88 hours, knocking them out.
They are rebuilding their websites.

But the war to silence whistle blowers is real.

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192428
05/16/20 04:10 PM
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The large number of people willingly consenting to the outright theft of their human rights is likely the reaction they have been waiting for.


That's the part that amazes me --
How many are not only accepting the theft of their human rights, but even defending the government in taking away those rights.

It's like most American's (not all by any means) think a tyrannical government could never happen in the US, Somehow thinking that mankind (at least in America) has evolved beyond that social level into a more humanitarian creature and the health, science and educated "lords" would never do anything to harm humanity.
They and their parents and possible their grandparents grew up in a FREE country and think that will never change. But those who know history know it can change -- and they see the steps are progressing in leaps and bounds to initiate that change.

When the USA sets aside it's constitution (which it is practicing doing right now) we know the end crises is right before us.
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Let none sit in calm expectation of the evil, comforting themselves with the belief that this work must go on because prophecy has foretold it, and that the Lord will shelter His people. We are not doing the will of God if we sit in quietude, doing nothing to preserve liberty of conscience. Fervent, effectual prayer should be ascending to heaven that this calamity may be deferred until we can accomplish the work which has so long been neglected. CCh 336

Re: Plandemic? [Re: dedication] #192430
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Originally Posted by dedication
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The large number of people willingly consenting to the outright theft of their human rights is likely the reaction they have been waiting for.


That's the part that amazes me --
How many are not only accepting the theft of their human rights, but even defending the government in taking away those rights.

It's like most American's (not all by any means) think a tyrannical government could never happen in the US, Somehow thinking that mankind (at least in America) has evolved beyond that social level into a more humanitarian creature and the health, science and educated "lords" would never do anything to harm humanity.
They and their parents and possible their grandparents grew up in a FREE country and think that will never change. But those who know history know it can change -- and they see the steps are progressing in leaps and bounds to initiate that change.

When the USA sets aside it's constitution (which it is practicing doing right now) we know the end crises is right before us.
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Let none sit in calm expectation of the evil, comforting themselves with the belief that this work must go on because prophecy has foretold it, and that the Lord will shelter His people. We are not doing the will of God if we sit in quietude, doing nothing to preserve liberty of conscience. Fervent, effectual prayer should be ascending to heaven that this calamity may be deferred until we can accomplish the work which has so long been neglected. CCh 336
There are those that think using technology like zoom is equivalent to giving up human rights WHO gave those rights?

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Jesus did not contend for His rights. Often His work was made unnecessarily severe because He was willing and uncomplaining. Yet He did not fail nor become discouraged. He lived above these difficulties, as if in the light of God's countenance. He did not retaliate when roughly used, but bore insult patiently. {DA 89.4}



Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Plandemic? [Re: APL] #192431
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Originally Posted by dedication
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The large number of people willingly consenting to the outright theft of their human rights is likely the reaction they have been waiting for.


That's the part that amazes me --
How many are not only accepting the theft of their human rights, but even defending the government in taking away those rights.

It's like most American's (not all by any means) think a tyrannical government could never happen in the US, Somehow thinking that mankind (at least in America) has evolved beyond that social level into a more humanitarian creature and the health, science and educated "lords" would never do anything to harm humanity.
They and their parents and possible their grandparents grew up in a FREE country and think that will never change. But those who know history know it can change -- and they see the steps are progressing in leaps and bounds to initiate that change.

When the USA sets aside it's constitution (which it is practicing doing right now) we know the end crises is right before us.
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Let none sit in calm expectation of the evil, comforting themselves with the belief that this work must go on because prophecy has foretold it, and that the Lord will shelter His people. We are not doing the will of God if we sit in quietude, doing nothing to preserve liberty of conscience. Fervent, effectual prayer should be ascending to heaven that this calamity may be deferred until we can accomplish the work which has so long been neglected. CCh 336
There are those that think using technology like zoom is equivalent to giving up human rights WHO gave those rights?

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Jesus did not contend for His rights. Often His work was made unnecessarily severe because He was willing and uncomplaining. Yet He did not fail nor become discouraged. He lived above these difficulties, as if in the light of God's countenance. He did not retaliate when roughly used, but bore insult patiently. {DA 89.4}




Did Jesus fight for His rights? Why not?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Plandemic? [Re: APL] #192432
05/16/20 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by APL
Originally Posted by APL
Originally Posted by dedication
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The large number of people willingly consenting to the outright theft of their human rights is likely the reaction they have been waiting for.


That's the part that amazes me --
How many are not only accepting the theft of their human rights, but even defending the government in taking away those rights.

It's like most American's (not all by any means) think a tyrannical government could never happen in the US, Somehow thinking that mankind (at least in America) has evolved beyond that social level into a more humanitarian creature and the health, science and educated "lords" would never do anything to harm humanity.
They and their parents and possible their grandparents grew up in a FREE country and think that will never change. But those who know history know it can change -- and they see the steps are progressing in leaps and bounds to initiate that change.

When the USA sets aside it's constitution (which it is practicing doing right now) we know the end crises is right before us.
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Let none sit in calm expectation of the evil, comforting themselves with the belief that this work must go on because prophecy has foretold it, and that the Lord will shelter His people. We are not doing the will of God if we sit in quietude, doing nothing to preserve liberty of conscience. Fervent, effectual prayer should be ascending to heaven that this calamity may be deferred until we can accomplish the work which has so long been neglected. CCh 336
There are those that think using technology like zoom is equivalent to giving up human rights WHO gave those rights?

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Jesus did not contend for His rights. Often His work was made unnecessarily severe because He was willing and uncomplaining. Yet He did not fail nor become discouraged. He lived above these difficulties, as if in the light of God's countenance. He did not retaliate when roughly used, but bore insult patiently. {DA 89.4}




Did Jesus fight for His rights? Why not?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192433
05/16/20 08:30 PM
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If it were only a brief spell of inconvenience -- it would not be a problem.
There is MUCH MORE going on and unless God intervenes and gives us a bit more time we will all be facing severe difficulties shortly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh5IG3LCNBk

And you can count on it that a sunday will be part of all this before long.
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Fervent, effectual prayer should be ascending to heaven that this calamity may be deferred until we can accomplish the work which has so long been neglected. CCh 336

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192437
05/17/20 10:43 AM
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Is the US the land of the free? If you ask the people of the US. what if you ask non-US people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCmZIEJXI4Y


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192438
05/17/20 11:07 PM
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"Is" the land of the free, or "was" the land of the free, that is the question.

-- prophecy shows it started out with wonderful ideals, (not that they always equally applied them) but the ideals were there, yet those ideals are being changed step by step for many years now, and it becomes a cruel dragon of tyranny.

And that, APL, is the problem we are facing right now --
It's not just a "don't go to church for six to eight weeks" to be safe from a virus, NO--
There are things going on under the cloak of covid-19 that show the dragon spirit is preparing to burst forth in full strength, out of hiding where it has been growing for some time.

Re: Plandemic? [Re: dedication] #192439
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you have been able to go to an expensive building. Nothing yet has kept you from meeting together. GOD'S claw has not been violated, that you have shown.

America the lsnd of the free? it is going to get a lot worse


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Plandemic? [Re: dedication] #192440
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Originally Posted by dedication
If it were only a brief spell of inconvenience -- it would not be a problem.
There is MUCH MORE going on and unless God intervenes and gives us a bit more time we will all be facing severe difficulties shortly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh5IG3LCNBk

And you can count on it that a sunday will be part of all this before long.
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Fervent, effectual prayer should be ascending to heaven that this calamity may be deferred until we can accomplish the work which has so long been neglected. CCh 336

What advice would you give, if they came telling, demanding, your residence has been determined to be vacated and you need to leave to this place in the city. Would you go without trouble, refuse to go on your own, run, say you have to kill me first...?

I observe that when they rounded up the Jews, they went along, hoping it was only temporary. Then they became weakened and couldn't rebel if they wanted. If they had refused at the beginning, things may have been different -- or at least, quicker.

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Originally Posted by APL
There are those that think using technology like zoom is equivalent to giving up human rights WHO gave those rights?

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Jesus did not contend for His rights. Often His work was made unnecessarily severe because He was willing and uncomplaining. Yet He did not fail nor become discouraged. He lived above these difficulties, as if in the light of God's countenance. He did not retaliate when roughly used, but bore insult patiently. {DA 89.4}

If they are not inalienable rights, and "they" gave them to us, then where in their statues do they say it's ok to quarantine healthy people? They aren't following their own rules.

Who and when was it determined that 6 feet is the proper distance? Was there a scientific study on that?

Why do some have to stay apart 2 meters? Is some 3 inches important? Or is both distances arbitrary?

If during stricter lockdown, 6 feet prevented the spread, then why during easing are some places requiring masks? Did the 6 feet not prevent it, or did they make a mistake, were any studies in error?

Too many illogical inconsistencies.



I observe that at times Jesus took opportunity to escape from the mob. Should we look to do the same when possible? A more of a passive resistance.

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192444
05/20/20 12:59 AM
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What advice?

I know the advice we were given --

"Before the overflowing scourge shall come upon the dwellers of the earth, the Lord calls upon all who are Israelites indeed to prepare for that event...Get out of the large cities as fast as possible. {AH 139.5}

"Again and again the Lord has instructed that our people are to take their families away from the cities, into the country, where they can raise their own provisions; for in the future the problem of buying and selling will be a very serious one. (Country Living}

" Out of the cities, is my message at this time. Be assured that the call is for our people to locate miles away from the large cities...... .--MR 1518 (May 10, 1906).

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Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192447
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Have you seen this video of a police officer speaking out against the use of the "pandemic" to nullify the constitution? He lost his job because of this!
https://youtu.be/UG9eMDzJNvQ


Shortly after the first video, a second police officer made a video protesting the "pandemic" fuelled erosion of the constitution. He has been suspended!
https://youtu.be/w5hHKR9yXVk


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192448
05/21/20 08:12 PM
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This whole thing is getting so crazy --
Surely the people can see the how all freedoms are being violated.

How can police do something like this --
https://www.facebook.com/612740554/videos/pcb.10158518646030555/10158518643880555
OR
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12330831

Woman with child arrest simply for joining a non aggressive protest against covid laws.
The child is screaming and crying, begging them not to take his mom.
They rip the child away from his mother and force her into the police car.
By standers shouting, don't don't.

She is charged with violating "distancing" laws.
Yet, that whole mob of police are NOT distancing from each other or from the woman!!!!

There are so many things like this happening -- in the world --
And yet there are still people saying there is nothing wrong?????

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192449
05/21/20 08:35 PM
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Implementing a new "language" to make it seem OK?

Everywhere we hear new phrases --
"Stay home, stay safe"

Really? How many people are suffering, even dying because people "stay home"???
People, especially the elderly dying ALONE because no visitors (family or friends) are allowed.
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Liza wants this message to go viral -- she tells what happened to her mother.
"My mom is a terminal victim of the COVID isolation measures, not the virus itself. She was isolated then neglected at an assisted living facility in western NY (farther away from NYC than Virginia. No family was allowed to visit, no family was notified that she stopped eating in isolation, lost 30 pounds, finally taken to a hospital 1.5w ago it was too late. I traveled and was allowed to visit her in hospital only because she was put on comfort measures. They would not keep her and transferred her to a nursing home to die alone, due to no-exception isolation policy, which will happen within the next couple days due to no IV fluids and inability to take anything orally. Please remember this face of COVID-measure victims, there are many more, let's open this country up! I WISH TO GOD my mom had actually gotten COVID-19 in March when the isolation measures were enacted, at least they might have sent her to the hospital for treatment, because apparently COVID is the only condition that matters to those who care for elderly now. Heartbroken in northern Virginia..


Another phrase:

"THE NEW NORMAL"

Do they really think coining that phrase and applying it to their new measures makes things NORMAL????
No, it's abnormal, not normal at all.

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192450
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The woman quoted above mentioned "apparently COVID is the only condition that matters"

That's another huge problem.
Did you realize that most hospitals are almost empty?
That's because all procedures deemed "non essential" have been put on "hold".
That includes life saving procedures that aren't immediate emergencies.
How many are going die because they have to wait TOO LONG for their procedures?

Did you realize that in the midst of what they call a national pandemic health there has been a HUGE cut back on health care???
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According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 43,000 healthcare jobs were lost in March 2020, and the job losses in healthcare have increased as shutdowns persist through the pandemic. The HealthLandscape and American Academy of Family Physicians issued a report estimating by June 2020, 60,000 family medical practices will close or scale back, affecting 800,000 workers.

(Just search "health care workers laid off" and you'll find the reports)


It doesn't sound to me like saving lives is the goal of all the restrictions being imposed.

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192451
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John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, that in me you might have peace. In the world you shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Plandemic? [Re: dedication] #192454
05/23/20 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dedication
This whole thing is getting so crazy --
Surely the people can see the how all freedoms are being violated.

How can police do something like this --
https://www.facebook.com/612740554/videos/pcb.10158518646030555/10158518643880555
OR
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12330831

Woman with child arrest simply for joining a non aggressive protest against covid laws.
The child is screaming and crying, begging them not to take his mom.
They rip the child away from his mother and force her into the police car.
By standers shouting, don't don't.

She is charged with violating "distancing" laws.
Yet, that whole mob of police are NOT distancing from each other or from the woman!!!!

There are so many things like this happening -- in the world --
And yet there are still people saying there is nothing wrong?????








It?s incredible that so many people are completely willing to surrender hard won freedoms and God given rights in the name of the latest "emergency"!
I posted the police officer video on a social media site and was told the constitution is unimportant! I was sworn at and called a murderer!
Large swaths of the population are calling for the eradication of their own civil rights and are actively seeking to impose unconstitutional repression on their fellow citizens. The complete nullification of the US Constitution is well underway. If you have not left the cities, you must go, now!


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192455
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Here is a report from May 20th:

"Mississippi church that refused to shut down burned overnight, being investigated as arson".

"The Mississippi church in Holly Springs that refused to shut down during quarantine was burned over night and is being investigated as arson according to police in Holly Springs.

The call that the First Pentecostal Church building on Highway 178 in Holly Springs was on fire came in about 2:30 according to police. Upon arrival, the chruch was fully involved.

Spraypainted on the pavement was the words "I Bet you stay home now you hypokrits.?

https://socialnewsms.com/breakingmi...d-overnight-being-investigated-as-arson/


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192477
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Sounds like a wake-up call to us when the focus will be on the Sabbath-Sunday issue.


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It may be a plan and if it is we know who is behind it. Imagine if this continues to grow worse how quickly people will be looking for someone to appear as a saviour.
"While appearing to the children of men as a great physician who can heal all their maladies, he will bring disease and disaster, until populous cities are reduced to ruin and desolation. Even now he is at work. In accidents and calamities by sea and by land, in great conflagrations, in fierce tornadoes and terrific hailstorms, in tempests, floods, cyclones, tidal waves, and earthquakes, in every place and in a thousand forms, Satan is exercising his power. He sweeps away the ripening harvest, and famine and distress follow. He imparts to the air a deadly taint, and thousands perish by the pestilence. These visitations are to become more and more frequent and disastrous. Destruction will be upon both man and beast. ?The earth mourneth and fadeth away,? ?the haughty people ... do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.? Isaiah 24:4, 5. ? {GC 589.3}.
You notice that it says even now he is at work!

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Bees don't practice social distancing
In fact, by grooming each other, they boost the immunity of the whole colony!

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They started this corona flu early in the year.
The middle of flu season.
Fauci is planning on it being really bad this fall when flu season starts.

Question: Why should it be any worse this fall with the "regular" flu if it had started with such flu early this year? There's no reason to believe it would be worse or better.

....Unless....

What happens each fall?
Do the [censored] line up begging to get a flu shot?
A flu shot for a flu they don't know what is going to be until later in the year?
A shot for a flu that changes each year, but yet they can have a vaccine for it that so call "matches" less than half the time?

....What if?....

What if, this year's flu vaccine has, shall we suggest, some other "substances" in it?

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Why is Fauci saying he fears this fall will be (choice of dramatic word). Is it because he knows what will be added to the vaccine?

Or is it because he knows what was studied at the department of defense and published in October, 2019.
Influenza vaccination and respirato...el during the 2017?2018 influenza season

"Additionally, the laboratory data in our study showed increased odds of coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in individuals receiving influenza vaccination."

If you want to increase your odds of catching a coronavirus, make sure you get your flu vaccine.

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Anthony Fauci lied about masks; now he complains that people 'distrust authority'

Maybe it has nothing to do about people distrusting science, but distrusting liars.

And these same liars are going to say, "Go ahead and take the vaccine, it's for your own good and helps your neighbor".
If they speak, they are lying.

Re 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Re 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

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Could someone tell me what to make of this October exercise? It was supposed to be about some other disease, but at 36:30 of the Finance Discussion, what should we make of that? Could it be more of a finishing touches "exercise"?
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/videos.html

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^^caps is a novel Corona virus related to those viruses that caused the frightening SARS epidemic in 2003. And the deadly MERS outbreaks in recent years. Scientists think each infected person in turn infects on average two more people. This disease is proving more transmissible than SARS or MERS, and about as contagious as influenza. Essentially, the cumulative number of cases is doubling every week. At this rate we can expect to see 16 times as many cases in a month unless we find a way to interrupt transmission.^^ The virus appears to be spread
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- rapidly in densely populated and impoverished neighborhoods in some mega cities in South America, caps is a serious respiratory disease. More than half of the recognized cases have required hospital care, creating a huge strain on healthcare systems, the fatality rate is about 10%. For comparison caps is about as lethal as SARS and two to four times more lethal than the 1918 influenza pandemic, the worst pandemic on record. Even so some people only exhibit mild flu like symptoms, not requiring treatment in a hospital. alarmingly, those people are able to walk around and spread the virus not realizing they are doing so. Even worse, international travelers have been arriving at their destination symptom free, but within a matter of hours becoming ill. Travel related cases have blossomed into outbreaks in a number of locations and have quickly grown faster than
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What a coincidence. To bad for them the real one isn't doubling as fast as they had hoped.

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Event - 201 proves that the entire WuFlu was planned. After a brief summer interlude of billionaire funded and orchestrated worldwide racial unrest, the second act of the great plague play will begin. We are already hearing intimations of a worse second wave of infection coming this fall.

"A second round of Covid-19 cases is "inevitable" come fall, the nation's top infectious disease doctor said, as people increasingly try to resume regular life and more states ease or lift their stay-at-home orders."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/02/health/coronavirus-second-wave-fall-season/index.html


Enjoy the show! And, don?t forget, "when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."
Luke 21:28


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How many "waves" will we have?

Check out Walter Veith's, "The Great Reset".

We will have as many waves as needed to accomplish the goal.

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The following linked video is no longer there.
Originally Posted by dedication
If it were only a brief spell of inconvenience -- it would not be a problem.
There is MUCH MORE going on and unless God intervenes and gives us a bit more time we will all be facing severe difficulties shortly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh5IG3LCNBk

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Not surprised -- a lot of people's video's concerning this disease have disappeared across the popular media outlets. Censorship is becoming a big thing. Only those in line with the Fauci/Gates explanations are allowed.

Here's a complaint by DOCTORS of MEDICINE

Big Tech Silencing Physicians: A Very Dangerous Road for American Medicine

Here is a quote from the article:

"When we have large and influential social media groups removing free speech and honest medical opinion, this creates an entirely new aspect to medicine. Particularly when the message being shared by this group has real data to support their stance regarding COVID treatment. An outright silencing of doctors that every physician and physician college should be deeply concerned with and quite honestly, angry ? angry that physicians are not allowed to express their genuine medical views. In addition, we need to be concerned that physicians are not allowed to express their medical opinions that may help patients during this worldwide pandemic. It would appear now that we are allowing social media tech giants to practice medicine, instead of keeping this sacred relationship between the doctor and patient. "

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And quite an interesting group publishing the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons

"Articles and commentaries published in the journal have argued a number of non-mainstream or scientifically discredited claims,[24] including:

that human activity has not contributed to climate change, and that global warming will be beneficial and thus is not a cause for concern.[30][31]
that HIV does not cause AIDS.[32]
that the "gay male lifestyle" shortens life expectancy by 20 years.[33]
that there is a link between abortion and the risk of breast cancer.[3]
that there are possible links between autism and vaccinations.[3]
that government efforts to encourage smoking cessation and emphasize the addictiveness of nicotine are misguided.[34]"

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Wikipedia is not a credible source.


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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

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Originally Posted by Theophilus
And quite an interesting group publishing the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons

"Articles and commentaries published in the journal have argued a number of non-mainstream or scientifically discredited claims,[24] including:

that human activity has not contributed to climate change, and that global warming will be beneficial and thus is not a cause for concern.[30][31]
that HIV does not cause AIDS.[32]
that the "gay male lifestyle" shortens life expectancy by 20 years.[33]
that there is a link between abortion and the risk of breast cancer.[3]
that there are possible links between autism and vaccinations.[3]
that government efforts to encourage smoking cessation and emphasize the addictiveness of nicotine are misguided.[34]"

Are you in agreement, disagreement, or are you questioning those who question "accepted" beliefs?

Re: Plandemic? [Re: kland] #192857
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The quoted wikipedia "report" is just another sign of the efforts to destroy any questioning or further study concerning the "political correct" accepted beliefs.
The White Coat Summit Press Conference was conducted by REAL qualified doctors who risked their jobs and reputations to alert the country to the REAL false information being delivered DAILY to the citizens of America. It was banned by the major media, retweeted by President Trump, whose tweet was also removed by the media, referred to by Trump Jr. who was also censored.


Click here to see who these doctors really were, and why they were censored

It starts out with what now appears on the website that used to be their website but is now taken over by the center of disease control.

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American life has fallen casualty to a massive disinformation campaign. We can speculate on how this has happened, and why it has continued, but the purpose of the inaugural White Coat Summit is to empower Americans to stop living in fear. If Americans continue to let so-called experts and media personalities make their decisions, the great American experiment of a Constitutional Republic with Representative Democracy, will cease.



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Highjacking a website! The CDC isn?t bothering to be subtle!


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After watching much of the press conference video, something really seems to be amiss.

This is what I captured so far:

PREVENTION OF COVID-19 DOSAGE:
Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) [HCQ] (200 mg twice weekly) with Zinc (daily).


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Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192885
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I'm not up on dosages -- but that dosage is a very small dose given only twice a week to people who have been exposed to Covid-19 and don't want to be infected.

Hydroxychloroquine if overdosed is deadly -- every doctor knows that.
That was the BIG problem when a clinical trial on the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine was done on seriously ill people with covid-19, back in June.
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"The chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine schedule selected for the trial includes two oral loading doses (250 mg per tablet CQ or 200 mg per tablet HCQ), then oral twice-daily maintenance doses for ten days. This meeting convened to discuss the appropriateness of the selected doses for the trial...."

The registration of the Canadian portion of the Solidarity trial informs us of its HCQ dose: ten 200 mg tablets during the first 24 hours (800 mg initial dose, 800 mg 12 hours later then 400 mg every 12 hours for 9 more days). This is 2.0 grams during the first 24 hours, and a cumulative dose of 8.8 grams over 10 days. The Norwegian Solidarity trial uses dosing identical to Canada....

Solidarity studies employed the same dose for all, rather than weight-based dosing....

The Solidarity trials are not, in fact, testing the benefits of HCQ on Covid-19, but rather are testing whether patients survive toxic, non-therapeutic doses.....


Last week, I was alerted to the fact that India's ICMR, its official medical research agency, had written to the WHO, telling WHO that the hydroxychloroquine doses being used in the Solidarity trial were 4 times higher than the doses being used in India. Then I learned that Singapore had been hesitant to participate in the WHO trial due to the hydroxychloroquine dose.


So these already seriously ill patients fighting for their lives, were given ridiculously high doses of a drug.
That was a HUGE OVERDOSE, and of course it shocked the patients hearts and system so many died.
Then the report goes out that hydroxychloroquine was a dangerous drug, don't use it.
Of course OVERDOSE is dangerous

Yes, it is a drug, and misuse of it can be dangerous, the point however, is that doctors have found careful combinations and proper dosages do work. Why is government stopping them?



False narrative




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So let's talk about LEMON JUICE

There's talk that this simple beverage can have a very positive effect against covid-19 as well, but of course that idea is ridiculed as any sort of cure by the powers that be.

Lemon juice has quite a story.

Scurvy was a very serious disease that killed thousands. We now know it is caused by a deficiency of vitamin C, but for hundreds of years doctors ridiculed lemons and oranges as having any effect on curing the disease.

"In his book, Bad Medicine, history professor David Wootton, writes, 'On long voyages, the mortality rate from scurvy was 50 percent. One estimate is that two million sailors died of this dreadful disease between 1492 and mid 1800's .....
Yet by 1601 merchant Sir James Lancaster had already solved the scurvy problem by stocking his ship with lemon juice on his voyage to the East Indies. ....
But this made no sense to doctors with a University education, who were convinced that this disease, like every other, must be caused by bad air or an imbalance of the humours. Pressured by doctors, ship captains refused to stock lemons.....
Lind's "discovery" occurred 150 years after knowledge of the efficacy of lemon juice was known to the Portuguese, the Spanish, and the first American colonists....
And yet, decades after his first success in 1747, Lind himself lost faith in his remedy and again resorted to bloodletting for scurvy patients. It took another 50 years for lemon juice to be generally adopted by the English Navy....
In 1786, a merchant sea captain wrote to the British Admiralty, informing them that lemon juice cured scurvy. The captain was told that trials have been made of the use of lemons in the treatment of scurvy and that surgeons all agree that lemons and oranges were of no service either in the prevention or cure of scurvy."


Interesting history. How many lives were lost because a simple cure was refused?
But have things changed?

According to the same article:
"There are likely "lemon juice" solutions to COVID-19, and perhaps hydroxychloroquine is one. But a government that suppresses debate and wants to funnel billions towards politically connected firms will discredit all challengers to their favored solutions. In the name of what they define as "the science," the discovery process of real science is suppressed. Science suppressors are part of an illiberal movement whose members, in the words of Jeffrey Tucker, are "enemies of freedom and human rights." They threaten the health of billions."

And it may well lead to this:
"Refuse Fauci's favored vaccine solution, and some advocate the government should force you to take the vaccine or jail you."

Government Cures Drive out Real Cures

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #192888
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Like I said and I think I am somewhat loosely quoting Hamlet, "There is something wrong in the state of Denmark,"


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Notice how covid promoters say things like there is a "spike" and you find out there was 1 case?

What if instead of over-exaggeration they said things like the following:

According to Hopkins Medicine statistics, coronavirus cases have strugglingly limped past 2% of annual flu cases. However, it has been slightly more successful in barely surpassing annual flu deaths, even though that embarrassingly includes coercive incentives to inflate the counts.

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If anyone had doubt, consider the following:
What Will Not Recover: Government
In 2006, the great epidemiologist Donald Henderson warned that if government pursued coercive measures to control a virus, the result would be a ?loss of confidence in government to manage the crisis.? The reason is that the measures do not work. Further, the attempt to make them work turns a manageable crisis into a catastrophe.

Prophetic.

So much so, in fact, that this might account for why ?14 Days to Flatten the Curve? has stretched to five months in which the Bill of Rights has been a dead letter, many are still locked out of their gyms, we can?t go to the movies, and we are forced to dance around each other in public spaces as if every person might be carrying a deadly pathogen.

No society can function this way, not if it desires prosperity and peace.

Why do the lockdowns and restrictions still last? Governments around the country never had an exit strategy.....

....
Let us hope the lesson is imparted. No matter the crisis, government action is destined to make it worse.


Governments Are Faking It, and Copying Each Other
This is similar to what I've been saying.

A mystery for months is how it is that so many governments in so many different places on earth could have adopted the same or very similar preposterous policies, no matter the threat level of the virus, and without firm evidence that interventions had any hope of being effective.


Socially distance! Don?t be a silent spreader! Even though the largest study yet has shown that ?asymptomatic cases were least likely to infect their close contacts.? Which is to say, this is mostly nonsense.

And the timing of it all seems strangely suspicious. All these countries and states implemented this compulsory clown show at the same time, whether cases were everywhere or nowhere.

Pete Earle?s theory of pot commitment seems to explain why the stringency persists even in the lack of evidence that they do anything to suppress the virus.

But how can we account for the imposition of so many similarly ridiculous rules at the same time across so many parts of the globe?


Why did so many governments go so nuts at once, disregarding their own laws, traditions, and values by bludgeoning their own people with the excuse of science that has turned out to be almost completely bogus? Some people claim conspiracy but a much simpler answer might be that, in their ignorance and stupor, they copied each other out of fear.


Preach it Jeffrey A. Tucker!


And yet in spite of this, there are some evil doctors, Dr. Michael Lederman, Maxwell J. Mehlman and Dr. Stuart Youngner, who dare suggest to Defeat COVID-19 by requiring vaccination for all. It's not un-American, it's patriotic.

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So now I'm seeing articles saying mask wearing doesn't prevent disease, but lessons it. Sounds like the propaganda for vaccines. They say it reduces the number of virus particles entering you, so the infection degree is less.

Does anyone know? According to what I understand, if one is susceptible to the virus, all it takes is one virus particle entering your system and you'd have a full blown disease. And it would be no different than having a whole bucket load of viruses entering you. Because, if what they are saying is true, then there'd be no need for a vaccine, just give one particle to each person, they get a mild case, and we're done with it.

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Originally Posted by Daryl
Like I said and I think I am somewhat loosely quoting Hamlet, "There is something wrong in the state of Denmark,"


Methinks, thou art correct, Yorick!

Dr. Rajiv Bhatia, clinical assistant professor of primary care and population health at Stanford, and Dr. Jeffrey Klauser, adjunct professor of epidemiology at UCLA

?The study found a 50-to-64-year-old person who has a single random contact has, on average, a 1 in 852,000 chance of being hospitalized or a 1 in 19.1 million chance of dying...?

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06...w-study-suggests-lower-than-we-perceive/

You have a better chance of winning the lottery or being struck by lightening!


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Expect death counts to go down as of September 1. New rules and promise of audits to hospitals for reimbursements.

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Speaking of planned chaos....

New Court Filings of Autopsy Examiner Say George Floyd Likely Died of Overdose, Not Strangulation

'I hate the truth. Fire him!'

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Could someone explain what I think I'm seeing here on the ILINet chart:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#ILINet

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Originally Posted by kland
Could someone explain what I think I'm seeing here on the ILINet chart:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#ILINet




It appears that masking, social distancing, and the financial gutting of the middle class has miraculously succeeded in virtually eliminating the flu, while having zero effect on its purported target Covid. A suspicious mind would be forgiven for concluding that generic flu cases are being deliberately mislabeled as Covid in order to continue inflating the numbers...


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It's never made sense as to why this infatuation of preventing all "cases" of this cold virus. What difference in their life does it make if I get sick? What if I die? Why should they care?
They certainly don't care if I smoke.
They certainly don't care if I drink.
They certainly don't care if I eat sugar.
They certainly don't care if I eat junk food.
They certainly don't care if I become obese.

The "opium" of the people, to keep them calm and submissive.

But yet they care I may "catch" a disease that the only way they can determine if I have it is to amplify it many times.
Why?

Consider animal tracing.
It serves to trace diseases in livestock so it can prevent market loss for producers. The idea to detect quickly the source and prevent the spread.
However, one cow doesn't care if another gets a disease.
But.... the producers do. Other countries may not buy their product like happened in past years.

So... All this can make sense if the "producers", the "owners", see us as livestock, that if we get sick, they will somehow suffer financial loss.

And if you have been contaminated with a patented mRNA, (think fields contaminated with GMO corn and the lawsuits), are you not considered owned?

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Provisional Mortality Data ? United States, 2020
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm#F1_down

"Please note:. This report has been corrected."
Corrected?...

"COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death"
Third? You mean there were two other causes higher? Even twice the number of covid deaths? And what are we doing about those?

Heart disease and cancer.
But yet no lockdowns of junk food dispensers, no restrictions at schools limiting sugar intake, no change in food menus. No intent to change some of the underlying risk factors of catching the virus.

"COVID-19 death rates were highest among adults aged ≥85 years, AI/AN and Hispanic persons, and males."
Now what was the average age of death for most years? Something like 78?

Now there's less old unhealthy people costing social security.

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Do not get lost in the false-positives of engineered propaganda (SARS-CoV-2, CoV-19, etc). What needs to be done, is examine closely the real pandemic - sin, and the first of the 7 last plagues that is coming. An incurable disease of the flesh:

Rev 16:1? And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.?

Rev 16:2? And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

Ah, a rejection of the health message (Body, Mind/Spirit (heart) and Soul (whole person) of the 3 Angels?Messages, will lead to never being healed of sin, and as such a result, consider the first plague carefully - "a grievous sore" (an outward physical manifestation of the flesh) for which there will be no balm in Gilead, for they had rejected Him (Jesus) already. How this will be tied into the NSL and global climate, etc will be very interesting.

Think also, of the present world-wide push for mRNA vaccination which alters the cells instructions at a genetic level, which cannot be undone, and for which mutations are already arising. A disease for which there will be no cure, no going back.

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We are told to wear masks to protect others.
We are told to take the experimental gene therapy to protect others.
But we cannot protect others from sin. We can't blame others for our sins.

It is interesting that those who reject the health message (though some have not heard), who partake of their choices, will then push to persecute others, to blame them for their health problems.

I see it at church. The ones who say it's ok to bring meat, cheese, sugar to potlucks are some of the same ones who's trying to force others to wear masks so that they are "protected". Blame others. Force others. But don't force me to eat healthy!

Now comes the real test of the remainder of us. At what cost are you willing to give up to protect your health? No traveling? No concerts? And if you are willing to give up your health for "convenience", are you willing to give up your religion, also?

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Originally Posted by kland
We are told to wear masks to protect others.
We are told to take the experimental gene therapy to protect others.
But we cannot protect others from sin. We can't blame others for our sins.

It is interesting that those who reject the health message (though some have not heard), who partake of their choices, will then push to persecute others, to blame them for their health problems.

I see it at church. The ones who say it's ok to bring meat, cheese, sugar to potlucks are some of the same ones who's trying to force others to wear masks so that they are "protected". Blame others. Force others. But don't force me to eat healthy!...

Good points. What I see happening is the Phariseeism, of making many burdens, and then not lifting a finger to help those struggling with their man-made and unscientific nonsense.

Mat 23:2? Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:?
Mat 23:3? All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.?
Mat 23:4? For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.?
Mat 23:5? But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,?
Mat 23:6? And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,?
Mat 23:7? And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

I have had my old (original) church (at which I was baptized) disregard the warnings I sent about the abuse of scripture (Leviticus, Romans 13, Revelation, etc) and the SoP/ToJ in trying to justify church closures, based on 0 (that's ZERO) actual scientific evidence and 0 (ZERO) actual law. I even heard one specific present-truther, a medical missionary of the citrus kind (and one I have admired over the years), say it was the churches 'duty' to close even before being asked by the states-side (USA) government. That the church was to be 'first' in presenting itself as humble and caring! As if! I nearly had apoplexy! I couldn't believe what I heard from this man/preacher who is normally spot on, being so far afield of truth, catering to the greater fear-mongering of this age (Luke 21:26).

The church was made (forced) to say, "Unclean, unclean ..." and distance itself from those needing the truth for this time.

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By any chance are those saying it was the church's duty to close, were the individuals overweight or otherwise not embracing health?

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Suppose you have a virus.
Suppose you want to vaccinate everyone.
Suppose the vaccination is not working.

What to do....

Variant!

Variant breakthrough explains why vaccinated people still get the virus. Then urge that everyone must get vaccinated to stop the variants that the vaccination doesn't stop.

Leaving the people go, huh?

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #194361
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Some people vehemently object to the comparison of forced masks or vaccinations with Jews being forced to wear a yellow star, saying that masks aren't killing people like they killed the jews.

However,

German Government Forces Jews to Wear Yellow Stars

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The Nazis in Germany and throughout German-occupied Europe implemented the yellow star as a means to publicly identify, humiliate, and isolate Jews. In many cases, this public identification and stigmatization preceded the mass deportations of Jews to ghettos and killing sites.

First came the star.
Then came the killing.

https://www.bl.uk/learning/histcitizen/voices/info/yellowstar/theyellowstar.html
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The star was intended to humiliate Jews and to mark them out for segregation and discrimination. The policy also made it easier to identify Jews for deportation to camps.


So is this about a virus? Is this about a vaccine?

Or is the purpose, with all the intentional lying, flip-flopping, etc, to get there to be a division among the people, to separate them into two groups, "us and them", to create contention, hostility, blaming others for their own health issues. To force the masks to dehumanize, to make it easier to hate others, kill them, not seeing them as people able to make their own choices. And once we get to this point of conditioning, we can substitute in anything for the virus and the one side will immediately gang up against the other side. First we try climate, then we try religion....

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Kind of like a trial run.


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Top doctors and scientists from around the world have been speaking out, daring to tell the truth about what's going on.....in spite.... of censorship....threat of losing their jobs. This is a 9 episode documentary
What you don't know can kill you.

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Doctors are being silenced globally, even here in BC a doctor in the Cache creek area was silenced for speaking out about the side effects.

Thanks Dedication for that information and I will be watching this series, not that I am not aware of the nefarious plan of complete and total control oveer our God given rights, but to educate myself in ways I can be able to educate others. However the demoralization process is complete, even when showing someone white is white, black is black, they will not believe it. This is the result of decades of programming.
God Bless,
Will

Re: Plandemic? [Re: Daryl] #194389
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Kind of like a trial run.

Well now they are going for the second 'run' of vaccinations, the boosters...
https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/18...hots-baffles-and-upsets-some-scientists/

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...nst-covid-moral-questions-arise-n1277092

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Could this be the reason for the surge now happening?????

Study: Fully Vaccinated Carry 251 times the viral load and pose risk to unvaccinated
See report

"The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.

This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally. ...
Thus, we have a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable ? fully vaccinated are participating as COVID-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style super-spreaders of the infection."

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This is why I wear a mask when I go anywhere.

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An interview important to hear:
Dr. Lawrence Palevsky MD

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I just watched the entire Dr. Palevsky interview. Some excellent information. I am amazed that this video has not been censored!

His description of the respiratory symptoms presented in Covid clearly indicates that it is not a respiratory illness, rather it acts on the red blood cells in the manor of a toxin. I wish that Dr. Palevsky had addressed the reasoning behind the widespread and often harmful, use of ventilators for a disease that does not inhibit the respiratory tract?


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
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That is the reason why I downloaded it.


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Re: Plandemic? [Re: Matthew 10vs8] #194444
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Originally Posted by Matthew 10vs8
Do not get lost in the false-positives of engineered propaganda (SARS-CoV-2, CoV-19, etc). What needs to be done, is examine closely the real pandemic - sin, and the first of the 7 last plagues that is coming. An incurable disease of the flesh:

Rev 16:1? And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.?

Rev 16:2? And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

Ah, a rejection of the health message (Body, Mind/Spirit (heart) and Soul (whole person) of the 3 Angels?Messages, will lead to never being healed of sin, and as such a result, consider the first plague carefully - "a grievous sore" (an outward physical manifestation of the flesh) for which there will be no balm in Gilead, for they had rejected Him (Jesus) already. How this will be tied into the NSL and global climate, etc will be very interesting.

Think also, of the present world-wide push for mRNA vaccination which alters the cells instructions at a genetic level, which cannot be undone, and for which mutations are already arising. A disease for which there will be no cure, no going back.

It seems that is one manifestation that has yet to appear, even early previews such as the scorching of the earth with the fires out west, Australia, south America, etc..

Re: Plandemic? [Re: dedication] #194448
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Secrets of CV
Top doctors and scientists from around the world have been speaking out, daring to tell the truth about what's going on.....in spite.... of censorship....threat of losing their jobs. This is a 9 episode documentary
What you don't know can kill you.



These documents are being aired right now.

https://vsecretscc.com/episode-8-live

Re: Plandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #194457
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Well, this one seems to have peaked, but we lost a lot of people we know.. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...ut-peak-may-have-been-reached/ar-AAO4S1p

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BOVILIS? CORONAVIRUS Coronavirus

Intranasal vaccine shown to be effective for the vaccination of healthy calves against enteric disease caused by bovine coronavirus. Efficacy shown in calves 3 days of age and older. Safety has been shown in calves 1 day of age and older.


Brought to you by the Merck.
Hmmm. Do animals get coronavirus or not? Enough for spending money vaccinating your cattle?
Or?

Some searching reveals:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/09/24/4-coronavirus-vaccine-stocks-the-bill-melinda-gate/
The Gates Foundation also owns shares of the big drugmaker. However, this investment wasn't initiated because of Pfizer's coronavirus program. Actually, the foundation first bought a stake in Pfizer back in 2002

But what about the Merck?

https://www.cnet.com/news/merck-chairman-to-join-microsofts-board/
2002: Raymond Gilmartin, chairman and chief executive of pharmaceutical giant Merck, is joining Microsoft's board of directors.

https://fortune.com/2007/11/13/microsofts-former-board-of-directors/
2007: Microsoft?s board of directors consists of ... Raymond V. Gilmartin, former chairman, president and chief executive officer of Merck & Co. Inc.;

https://www.keionline.org/microsoft-timeline
September 16, 2004. Public Radio International is awarded a ?major? grant by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Separately, PRI discloses funding from Merck.

2009: Among the leading funders of the Global Health Council were the Gates Foundation and the Merck Foundation.

March 31, 2010. The Gates Foundation announced the hiring of Richard Henriques as its new Chief Finanical Officer. Before joining the foundation, Henriques was senior vice president of finance and corporate controller of Merck,

https://grain.org/en/article/6511-w...mises-more-empire-and-less-public-health
Jul 2020: Former director of vaccine development at the foundation and current CEO of the Bill & Melinda Gates Medical Research Institute, Penny Heaton, hails from drug kingpins Merck and Novartis.

The foundation?s president of global health, Trevor Mundel, served in leadership positions at both Novartis and Pfizer. His predecessor, Tachi Yamada, was previously a top executive at GlaxoSmithKline (GSK).
Kate James, worked at GSK for almost 10 years, then became the foundation?s chief communications officer. The examples are almost endless.

Meanwhile, the Gates Foundation has provided Big Pharma with the perfect vehicle for influencing the WHO.
In 2018 alone, the foundation gave $237.8 million to the WHO, making it the second-largest contributor after the U.S.
The foundation also funds the WHO indirectly through Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunizations (GAVI), a ?public-private partnership? that facilitates bulk sales of vaccines to poor countries. GAVI is the second-largest non-state funder of the WHO (after the Gates Foundation), and gave $158.5 million to the WHO in 2018.

Because most of both the Gates Foundation?s contributions to the WHO are earmarked, the WHO doesn?t decide how these funds are spent ? the foundation does.
Seven years later, the organization?s then-Director General Margaret Chan noted that because the WHO?s budget is highly earmarked, it is ?driven by what [she calls] donor interests.?


More than I wanted to find....

But now, back to infecting animals... Some say that many times more virus particles are coming from vaccinated individuals who catch the disease. The blood supply is contaminated with spike proteins.
What would happen if you were to eat animals with spike proteins floating around in them? Does this ensure that everyone is "vaccinated"? Or exposed to vaccinated animals?

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The Bovilis vaccine is not necessarily specific for covid-19. But what would happen to vaccinated people exposed to other coronavirus vaccines and proteins?

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The NIH acknowledged that their grantee, EcoHealth Alliance, subcontracted to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and had altered bat coronaviruses to make them potentially more infectious to humans. However, those viruses could not have become SARS-CoV-2, the letter states.

Fauci Blasts Rand Paul On Covid Lab Leak Theory: "Molecularly Impossible"
"Unequivocally anything that knows anything about viral biology and phylogeny of viruses know that it is molecularly impossible for those viruses that were worked on to turn into SARS-CoV-2," Fauci said.

Side stepping the accusation of making bat coronaviruses more infectious to humans.

Can you spot the weasel words?
"those viruses"
"that were worked on"
"molecularly impossible"
"SARS-CoV-2"

Translation: Yes, we worked on getting bat viruses to be able to infect humans, but those viruses have not yet been released. SARS-CoV-2 is from other viruses we worked on previously. Just wait until we release these others after everyone's immune system has been lowered through the transfection injection.

'I told you not to eat the cookies. Is that chocolate cookie crumbs on your face?'
'No. (It was the peanut butter one)'

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Does anyone else feel they are living in a SciFi thriller movie that never ends?

NIH Admits Funding Gain-Of-Function COVID Experiments; Gives EcoHealth Five Days To Report Data

We also learned in September that 18 months before the Pandemic, Daszak applied for a grant to release enhanced airborne coronaviruses into the wild in an effort to inoculate them against diseases that could have otherwise jumped to humans, according to The Telegraph, citing leaked grant proposals from 2018.


Darpa refused the contract - saying "It is clear that the proposed project led by Peter Daszak could have put local communities at risk," while warning that Daszak hadn't fully considered the dangers involved in enhancing the virus via gain-of-function research, or by releasing a vaccine into the air.


Five days have passed. I haven't found the result.

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Interesting information from that link.


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Erase all traces.

Wuhan Iab can delete data in ?explosive? legal agreement with U.S. lab

?The party is entitled to ask the other to destroy and/or return the secret files, materials and equipment without any backups,? it states.

This right is retained even after the agreement?s five year term ends in October 2022. All documents are eligible for destruction under the agreement?s broad language.

The labs are two of just a handful of facilities in the world that do similar cutting edge work on novel coronaviruses. The lab in Texas, with funding from the National Institutes of Health, was doing biosafety training with the lab in Wuhan, which operates under the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

Zhengli Shi of Wuhan Institute of Virology is upset that just because they should delete the data, others shouldn't accuse them of hiding anything.

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I've heard of people submitting 5 covid tests that weren't used and getting different results back. But does anyone know of anything where people submit test made on inanimate objects? Maybe swabbing trees, or flowers? If the tests are faulty, then you would expect random results. In the rare chance they do test for some element, then it would vary based upon the environment. Street lamps along a busy sidewalk would likely test positive. And of course everyone who breathes that air, but doesn't mean either has some disease.

In the US, cases are increasing. So what. Are people getting sick? So what, if they are not dying. People get sick of all kinds of things.

But there is a glimmer of hope that case counts are going to plummet! Seems federal funds for the tests are about to run out.

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