And the numbers are?

Have you noticed the "flattening the curve" gives no numbers? Would that mean it's based upon artistic conjecture rather than scientific facts of numbers?

And as others have pointed out, that's the problem. They aren't quarantining ill contagious people, but healthy people. Why? They didn't with last year's flu. Why this year's?

Better ask that of those who have had no job for the past several months, and threatened being evicted.
Better ask those landlords where they can't evict non-paying tenants but still have to meet their mortgage payments.
Better check around and see all the harm that is being done.
But I'm glad you are not experiencing any.
Could you show the scientific study of how the proper distance was determined?
How was the number of people in public places arrived at?
Do you really think limiting to 10, 25, 50 people would really stop the spread?

How many?
Compare that with how many get the flu each year?

Was that a scientifically arrived at conclusion or speculation?
I might sound like coming across wrong, but should we not critically think about these things?
Ever hear the advertisement that this product is better because it has "more"?
You should instantly ask, "more what?"

According to the Governor, the rise is due to increased testing.

For me to believe it's not a conspiracy, would require them not saying there's an "outbreak" and then finding out that there were 2 people.
Not saying
resurgence of coronavirus cases across the country and finding they "didn?t specify the number of cases linked to the party". What, 2 people, 4 people?
No talk of "surge", "wave", "soaring", "disastrous cluster" (3 deaths) when we're talking about minimum numbers in absolute terms, and a fraction of what happens in past flu years, and heart disease, and drunk driving, etc., etc.
Does the arbitrary social distancing prevent disease from spreading?
Or does wearing masks prevent disease from spreading?
So if either prevent disease from spreading, then if you have the disease, wear a mask and maintain the distance, you should be free to go anywhere, right?
Not building whole new wings of a hospital and never having a patient in those wings, and having no current virus patients and having treated less than a dozen over the whole time.

These are a few reasons why I see the whole lockdown as a hoax. Especially when in October, they got together to practice for a pandemic, and lo and behold, we have something to put to a "live exercise". A "solution" looking for a problem.

Theophilus, do you think there is a slightest possibility you are reacting just as they want people to react? No checking of the actual numbers. Do you think you are being groomed for "the second wave", and all that's being planned starting this fall? Conditioned that locking up healthy people is prudent and proper, STAFF EDIT

Guess if you're sitting at a park bench, tell the officer you are protesting the lockdown.

Is the government's purpose to protect our health?

If so, then what about shutting down all alcohol beverages?
What about banning all junk food. New York tried to make a profit on it.

I don't see protecting our health is a government's job. Building roads seems like a good thing.

What's really pitiful is I've heard that some churches are meeting, but the pastor is scared and stays home.
What's going to happen when they pass the sunday laws?

How would it hurt to just say that those who are fearful and worry about dying to stay home, and let the rest of us to go about life?

Kland, thank you for the excellent linked article! The linked Vitamin D Institute page, inside of the article, is extremely informative!

I do not think it is a hoax, nor do I believe I'm overreacting and all the sheeple bunk.

When we are talking about COVID what the best thing to look at is the R naught number.

What the R number is is the exponential growth, more or less.

Initially, COVID was about 3.5 , meaning that if 1 person was infected, he/she would infect 3.5 more, and each of those 3.5 more. You can see the spread--it would be quick and affect a lot of people.

OTOH, flu usually has an R of 1.3--so every person who got flu would infect 1.3 people. If it is a bad flu year, R would be higher.

The goal is to get the R value at 1 or<1

The masks are necessary to protect others. The social distancing has been calculated at 6 ft because a sneeze or cough will dissipate a lot through that distance.

If we all run back to church without proper procedure in place, we run the risk or getting the virus and giving it to loved ones.

If we are masking and social distancing, it would be ok for some to attend church. I would assume the seating would have to moved round to accomodate..I am not going however, not until the R value gets lower. I think that is a good decision for me--doesn't make me a sheeple--

It was going down, but some folks overdid the running back out, and it is increasing the amount of infection.



I already talked about the Angel of Death, and the children of Israel staying inside. Also know, Our Lord said there would be pestilences. Remember the flu of 1918? R was 1.4-2.8. I read in Copenhagen it got as high as 5.

This is what there was a "just in case" pandemic model created for: to use in the event of a problem such at this. Things move around the world more quickly these days. And we are gonna have more pestilences, too. Jesus put an "s" on pestilence, so it's plural.

We just need to get the R value down to 1 or less, and we'll be fine.

What I have presented here is sound to me.

You are assuming the rulers of this world are not lying to you.
It is interesting that straying from the official narrative has gotten many people censored on facebook, youtube, etc...

. Jesus said there would be pestilences
What in the world is wrong with you?
Oh, and no one is lying to you, right? Who is lying to me? What are you talking about? Did you understand the rational of the exponential growth? If it is going to be mild, the person will infect less people. The R factor is the exponent. Don't you remember this from school? How exponents work? (insert slap my head emoji)
This has got to be the stupidest stuff I've seen from Adventists who are supposed to be rational and logical. You guys are complaining about not being able to go to church, when you could full well be doing something about it. Again, are you exercising faith in God? NOPE! You are as grumbly as the children of Israel. Did you ask the Lord what He wants you to do? NOPE! Someone said that in the latter days (these are the latter days) that Sister White said we will be studying in small groups. Did you ask the Lord for a study group? NOPE!
I miss the fellowship too, but there will be a time when you have to stand alone. Are you ready for it? I know I'm not, and I need to be.

Why dont you form a plan to study during these times?

We have a message for the world, and it's not something loopy.
Does the censoring on you tube and facebook have anything to do with Q?

Are you guys Q?

Please do me a favor. On this board we have an ignore function. I urge you to put me on it **********Remember --ignore Theophilus.********
I came to this board because there are lots of interesting studies on Biblical things.

I will return the favor.

Some people get viruses and they dont affect them but they can pass them along The mask is to protect another, not yourself. I sure hope you haven't infected anyone. Using hand gel is not a denial of faith. It serves to kill germs. We have more diseases now.


Dos mas.