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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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06/20/20 04:54 PM
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We are taking advantage of the situation by holding prayer meetings, our Sabbath School Lesson Discussion, etc, via platforms such as Zoom, which is including those who were unable to go to church prior to this on account of other issues, who are benefiting from using platforms like Zoom to pray, study, and fellowship together.
Let us not chastise anybody here for thinking differently than we do, but to rather encourage one another as we see the Day of His Second Coming approaching.
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
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06/21/20 06:46 PM
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Theophilus, help my unbelief. It would help if these beliefs were science based. Show us science based journal articles to support your beliefs, and maybe we can accept them. Right now, I see so many lies and inconsistencies about this year's flu virus that I have a hard time believing this pandemonium. What the R number is is the exponential growth, more or less.
I could not find anything about exponential. I found it as a multiplier. Could you show us a journal article where it shows how it was calculated? The masks are necessary to protect others.
But if people who are afraid, stay home, then it's not necessary, right? Show a journal article of an experimental study showing that masks prevent transmission of disease. The social distancing has been calculated at 6 ft because a sneeze or cough will dissipate a lot through that distance.
Show a journal article of an experimental study showing that 6 feet protects people and not 3 feet, nor 5 feet. We were told initially not to wear masks. Now we are told to wear them. Were they lying to us before or are they lying to us now? If masks prevent the spread of disease, then we don't need to maintain 6 feet, right? And if 6 feet prevent the spread of disease, then we don't need to wear masks, right? And if someone has the flu, and wears a mask and/or maintains 6 feet, they don't need to be quarantined, right? Which one they tell us to do is the lie? If you have not found and read any journal articles where experimental studies have been performed determining these such specifics, than ask yourself this: Is your belief science based or media based?
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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06/21/20 08:16 PM
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Here you go. You can cut it out with the media thing. Media is books, airwaves, signs, and forums. So?Where do you get your information? I just happen to go more to study to see what was going on. That I'm not thoroughly PO'd with the world because I have to stay home is the least of my worries. I find it funny that you guys get in a wringer because you have to wait to go to church. First world problems. OTOH,Im supposed to crawl all over the earth finding stuff for you or explaining something that should be easy for you to grasp, if you were not so anti information.. https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-feet-social-distancing.htmlAlso r is not a multiplier--more exponential although I think i see what the problem is. Let's use 3. as the R number and assume that if a virus has an r number of 3 , 1 person will infect 3 people. Those 3 will infect three more people . That is not 3*3, that is 3 to the third power, which is 27. See the difference? there are a ton of websites about R you could google all of these, but you prefer to cut on me. https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number I don't want to have have to deal with being called names or looked down upon and thought of being a person who has no faith.If i say anything, I'm the bad guy.That's funny, too.Don't ask me anymore questions or acknowledge this any further. I am not going to respond anymore. You vex me, and if truth be told, I don't like you. You might learn something if you google for yourself, somewhere with some academia. I'd steer clear of Breitbart. I'm going to go somewhere else. Oh and chastise away for the tenor of this post. I have asked to be removed as a member. This post may be just the ticket!!!!
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
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06/21/20 10:39 PM
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Guess I hit a nerve by asking for science to back it up. Journal articles. Materials and methods. Can you present some? Is that a bad request?
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
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06/21/20 11:07 PM
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I already did. You are a troll.
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I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;... Gen 32:10
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
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06/22/20 12:32 AM
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Theophilus shows us the reason we need to assemble in person. The warmth of a smile and a handshake can melt away the suspicions we naturally might tend to have of each other otherwise. Online contacts, such as here, can never equal personal contact. We NEED to gather together. Isolation breeds loneliness and negativity. Online contacts do little, if anything, to mitigate this.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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06/22/20 10:52 AM
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The Bible does have something to say about being quarantined. Take for instance the following: Lev 12:4 ESV Then she shall continue for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying. She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed. Lev 12:5 ESV But if she bears a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her menstruation. And she shall continue in the blood of her purifying for sixty-six days.
Lev 12:4 KJV? And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.? Lev 12:5 KJV? But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.? This sounds like periods of being quarantined to me; one period being for 33 days and another period being for 66 days in which the person under quarantine wasn't even allowed to enter the sanctuary.
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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06/22/20 11:30 AM
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I have a mistake in my post 192619 above which i am not able to edit. For the example R=3 (R is the exponent) 1 person affects 3 people. Those 3 affect 3 people which makes 9 people affected. those 9 affect 3 each making it 27.. and so on. This is exponential 3^1=3 3^2=9 3^3=27 The ideal is to get R to 1 or <1 https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
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06/22/20 12:35 PM
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The Bible does have something to say about being quarantined. Take for instance the following: Lev 12:4 ESV Then she shall continue for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying. She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed. Lev 12:5 ESV But if she bears a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her menstruation. And she shall continue in the blood of her purifying for sixty-six days.
Lev 12:4 KJV? And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.? Lev 12:5 KJV? But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.? This sounds like periods of being quarantined to me; one period being for 33 days and another period being for 66 days in which the person under quarantine wasn't even allowed to enter the sanctuary. The differences are, the woman was considered unclean/unpure for a certain condition. The quarantine was for a limited and specified time. How does that compare with this year's flu "quarantine"?
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Re: The Whites' Thoughts on Quarantine, Fumigation, and Church Attendance while Sick
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06/22/20 01:06 PM
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