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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #191450
01/02/20 12:25 PM
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It seems to me that the climate change agenda is a red herring manufactured by Satan. It is a perfect way of blunting any discussion that the increasing occurrence of fires, floods and earthquakes is due to God?s judgments on the wickedness prevalent in the world today and not on manmade climate change.

I see Immorality as the causal agent in the increasing frequency of worldwide disasters and not climate change as Satan would have us believe.

The restraining Spirit of God is even now being withdrawn from the world. Hurricanes, storms, tempests, fire and flood, disasters by sea and land, follow each other in quick succession. Science seeks to explain all these. The signs thickening around us, telling of the near approach of the Son of God, are attributed to any other than the true cause. Men cannot discern the sentinel angels restraining the four winds that they shall not blow until the servants of God are sealed; but when God shall bid His angels loose the winds, there will be such a scene of strife as no pen can picture. { 6T 408.1} (emphasis,mine)
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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #192246
04/08/20 12:27 PM
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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #192641
06/23/20 05:33 PM
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Corona virus hype kind of amplifies the hype of global warming.

Hottest Arctic temperature record probably set with 100-degree reading in Siberia

Can you spot the lies?

Start with the title, "probably".

"is likely to have set a record".

"a region that is warming at more than twice the rate of the rest of the globe."
As in, interest rates on checking accounts are 10 times the amount just a few months ago. Does that mean people are getting rich off of interest, or is it that rates went from 0.1 to 1?


How the Arctic Circle just eclipsed 100 degrees

Temperatures hit triple digits at a Russian town in the Arctic Circle on Saturday, either breaking or nearly breaking the hottest temperature on record in this polar realm.

"Breaking or nearly breaking. "
Meaning, it didn't break it by much.
"(which would eclipse an Arctic Circle record set over a century ago, in Alaska)"
A century ago? Did man cause that? Guess we've been cooler since then.

"In the relentlessly warming 21st century, "
Sounds like Corona virus terms.

"robust fires that are releasing bounties of heat-trapping carbon into the atmosphere."
Bounties? How much?

"What caused such extreme heat in Siberia? "
Extreme? Like a century ago? Shame.

"This region of warmer air has been facilitated by the jet stream, "
Well, at least some honesty. So caused by a fluctuating jet stream....

"The planet is heating up as human civilization saturates the atmosphere with the highest levels of heat-trapping carbon dioxide in at least 800,000 years. "

Saturating? Is that like interest rates? Or coronavirus "sweeping" the world?
How much?


Since the first Earth Day, the planet?s CO2 levels have gone off the rails


Catch the title, "off the rails". Sensational hype.

"Nearly 50 years ago, scientists measured Earth's levels of carbon dioxide ? the planet's most important greenhouse gas ? at around 325 parts per million, or ppm. "

"Now, almost five decades later, that number has shot up to around 412 ppm, nearly 90 ppm higher. "

Granted, almost 28% higher does sound significant. But not as much as 10 times higher interest.
But how much is 412 ppm?

ppm= parts per million

412/1,000,000 = 0.000412

So it went from nothing to nothing? 0.04%
If you had $100 at 0.04%, and kept it in the bank a whole year, you'd get 4 pennies more.
Compared to 8% stock market (at least before man-made corona hype), you'd get 8 dollars more.


"The last time CO2 levels were this high, the sea level was many feet higher than it is today,"

Last time? So it's been that way in the past? And now that it's the same it's wrong?

"But in recent years the rate has increased to, on average, over 2 ppm,"
That's 0.000002

"We're pumping colossal amounts of CO2 into the planet's skies."
And corona virus is "surging". Yep.
Yawn. Tired of hype.

After corona hype, it kind of puts global warming in more obvious pandemonium.


"Coronavirus won't make a dent on climate" -- I'm afraid that will be true for the hype to come.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #192648
06/24/20 07:36 PM
06/24/20 07:36 PM
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Yes, there is a lot of "hype"
or rather slanting figures to create hype.

The coronavirus "surge" is due more to TESTING, then to actual cases of sick people.

Did you notice that the "cause of death" for just about everything else has taken a significant decline since people have been said to die of covid-19.

Have you noticed that our "over run" medical system is closing down clinics and even hospitals, laying off thousands of medical workers right in the heart of so called epidemic?

Now I don't deny that there is a disease out there -- a flu strain -- as the flu season comes around quite regularly and causes it's yearly problems and deaths -- but this year it's USED for a huge political agenda to change the world into something that is far more scary than annual flu.

Climate change, covid, racial issues, and who knows what strings they will pull next to thrust the world into hyper confusion which is necessary for them to overturn life and bring in their agenda for the world.

We may well be heading into the "little time of trouble".

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: dedication] #192649
06/24/20 08:14 PM
06/24/20 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dedication
The coronavirus "surge" is due more to TESTING, then to actual cases of sick people.
They actually admitted that before the release. Seems many have forgotten that.

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We may well be heading into the "little time of trouble".
And if not, at least preparatory for that time, laying the mechanisms in place. I keep telling myself that maybe it's just greedy people trying to make a bunch of money. But it appears the world is forever changed. Man-made changes.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: APL] #192650
06/24/20 08:20 PM
06/24/20 08:20 PM
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Everything does take a different perspective, after shutdown. Whether lake levels, warming, comets, corona, it's all the same:
"The sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

The video shows some reflection on what some here do:

"By and large it?s not scientists, it?s non-scientist alarmists who claim to speak for the scientists, and indignantly shoosh non-scientist sceptics, who keep telling us what the current scientific consensus supposedly is. "

Well would they do, if they heeded the advice:
When focused on data and solid evidence, it's hard to be an alarmist.

But they don't understand data and solid evidence, just media.
The world is doomed due to years of dumbing down.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #193734
02/17/21 08:22 PM
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Record setting lows, long cold spell, but just you wait, the global warmers will be saying we had the warmest winter on record.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #193787
02/23/21 03:29 AM
02/23/21 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kland
Record setting lows, long cold spell, but just you wait, the global warmers will be saying we had the warmest winter on record.

You're just taking your turn in America this year. We have had a relatively warm winter here on the other side of the planet this year--which I sort of enjoy, as cold showers in cold weather are not a favorite with me. But last year and in 2016 we had record lows. Many cattle died in 2016 due to the cold. The cold seems to be blown down from the north. Global warming creates more wind movement, and the cold air is pushed to greater distances than ordinary.

The litmus test for the warming, in my opinion, is observing the glaciers. When I hiked certain familiar mountains in British Columbia, Canada many years ago, we would enjoy walking on the thick glaciers, watching out for dangerous crevasses and otherwise doing a little "skiing" in places on the huge snow pack. I haven't been back there in years, but can easily locate the same mountain valleys which were so familiar to me at that time via Google Earth.

Now, if kland is correct to think global warming is a conspiracy theory, the theory just broadened to "fixing" the images in the Google Earth database. Those glaciers I hiked on are all gone. I was surprised to see that in one of the valleys where I used to hike in, and where we had done a bit of portage with a canoe between three particular lakes, there is now a logging road going well beyond those lakes and up the valley beyond. After that third lake there used to be glaciers. It was in that area that I once witnessed a large avalanche that ended in the lake--fortunately on the opposite side from where I stood. The sound volume of that was nearly beyond description. The Google Images were taken in summertime--but that's also when we used to go hiking there. Glaciers are year-round. But they're nearly extinct in the region I looked. I noticed lakes in the images that I had never seen before, as those would have been under the glaciers years ago.

Once the glaciers are gone, the natural "buffer" to temperatures will be gone as well, and certain regions may expect more rapid warming.

The freezing rains that hit the Portland, OR area recently and caused widespread power outages are a sign of warming, too. Had the climate been cooler, that would have been snow instead of freezing rain.

Think as you will regarding the temperatures where you are--I know what I'm talking about with the glaciers. To me, that is as "scientific" of evidence as one might contribute in a discussion of this nature.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: Green Cochoa] #193790
02/23/21 11:24 AM
02/23/21 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Cochoa
Originally Posted by kland
Record setting lows, long cold spell, but just you wait, the global warmers will be saying we had the warmest winter on record.

You're just taking your turn in America this year. We have had a relatively warm winter here on the other side of the planet this year--which I sort of enjoy, as cold showers in cold weather are not a favorite with me. But last year and in 2016 we had record lows. Many cattle died in 2016 due to the cold. The cold seems to be blown down from the north. Global warming creates more wind movement, and the cold air is pushed to greater distances than ordinary.

The litmus test for the warming, in my opinion, is observing the glaciers. When I hiked certain familiar mountains in British Columbia, Canada many years ago, we would enjoy walking on the thick glaciers, watching out for dangerous crevasses and otherwise doing a little "skiing" in places on the huge snow pack. I haven't been back there in years, but can easily locate the same mountain valleys which were so familiar to me at that time via Google Earth.

Now, if kland is correct to think global warming is a conspiracy theory, the theory just broadened to "fixing" the images in the Google Earth database. Those glaciers I hiked on are all gone. I was surprised to see that in one of the valleys where I used to hike in, and where we had done a bit of portage with a canoe between three particular lakes, there is now a logging road going well beyond those lakes and up the valley beyond. After that third lake there used to be glaciers. It was in that area that I once witnessed a large avalanche that ended in the lake--fortunately on the opposite side from where I stood. The sound volume of that was nearly beyond description. The Google Images were taken in summertime--but that's also when we used to go hiking there. Glaciers are year-round. But they're nearly extinct in the region I looked. I noticed lakes in the images that I had never seen before, as those would have been under the glaciers years ago.

Once the glaciers are gone, the natural "buffer" to temperatures will be gone as well, and certain regions may expect more rapid warming.

The freezing rains that hit the Portland, OR area recently and caused widespread power outages are a sign of warming, too. Had the climate been cooler, that would have been snow instead of freezing rain.

Think as you will regarding the temperatures where you are--I know what I'm talking about with the glaciers. To me, that is as "scientific" of evidence as one might contribute in a discussion of this nature.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


What are your thoughts on the Grand Solar Minimum period we are entering? https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/09/05/global-cooling-noaa-confirms-full-blown-grand-solar-minimum/


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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: Green Cochoa] #193792
02/24/21 10:03 PM
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[From Post #181202 (07/30/16)]
Originally Posted by Green Cochoa
Speaking of taking all variables into account, here's a case in point:

I could make a legitimate case for determining the amount of global warming based on the speed of the earth's rotation. Can you tell me how I might do this?


I see we're approaching five years since this question was posed. No answers have come forward. This is the kind of riddle that a good scientist might enjoy solving.

Any takers? How is it possible that a change in earth's temperatures could affect the speed of the earth's rotation?

I gave a subtle clue in the following post:

Originally Posted by Green Cochoa
Those who are worth their salt (pun intended) should be able to answer my question.

smile



Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Last edited by Green Cochoa; 02/24/21 10:03 PM.

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