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How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end... #194782
05/12/22 10:04 AM
05/12/22 10:04 AM
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We are starting to see many sections of the internet coming under strict control or censorship in many different ways, and the restriction even in religious sections or forums of the truth given in Gods Word. We are being told at forums that we cannot teach or debate the Sabbath as 7th day or show how Sunday came in from pagan origins. Or that teaching that Sunday worship is or will be the Mark of the Beast will be restricted and that the Papacy is the Antichrist or 'Babylon" will be a violation of rules or restricted as "controversial".

Well, it certainly is happening now, the SOP warned how it would get to this point where the people would become hardened against truth, "With every rejection of truth the minds of the people will become darker, their hearts more stubborn, until they are entrenched in an infidel hardihood. In defiance of the warnings which God has given, they will continue to trample upon one of the precepts of the Decalogue, until they are led to persecute those who hold it sacred."(GC 603)

I am getting ousted or banned from many forums for even posting the Day Year Principle showing the 1260 years of the Antichrist or Little Horn power, or taken out for sharing the state of the dead, and for other scriptural truths that they dont want to see. And with no warning or message, or discussion, even I was surprised at the arbitrary nature of the actions of the forums. I dont want to name them, but this is after 20 years of being a member in many of their sites and in 'good standing'.

Satan is working every way to stop the truth from being given as we get to the final days, he will do whatever it takes and whatever scheme to destroy the spread of the Loud Cry message at the end.

Last edited by Rick H; 05/14/22 09:06 AM.
Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end... [Re: Rick H] #194783
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Please let me know where these are so I can join them and continue the work you have begun there!

Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end... [Re: TheophilusOne] #194789
05/15/22 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheophilusOne
Please let me know where these are so I can join them and continue the work you have begun there!


Well the one I was most disappointed the most was with the Baptist Forum who were very strict in the Baptist section but allowed most levels of discussions in 'Other Christian" section. I got ousted on the state of the dead as I slipped and said "Adventist believe" instead of 'I believe', which they consider 'teaching' rather than 'discussing', my bad... https://www.baptistboard.com/forums/

Another good one which I liked but where I was just restricted for discussing issues with creeds was Christian Havens, nice people but one moderator had a bad view of SDA's while the other was supportive... https://christianityhaven.com/categories/christian-only-forums.41/

The Religious Forums banned me for thread the state of the dead, no warning or email... https://www.religiousforums.com/

The Theology Online Forum was another one, it banned me with no warning or email, for discussing the Papacy as the Antichrist. I cant say much good about it.... https://theologyonline.com/

There are some that are tightening discussion or issues but I am still on them, and others which I will have to recheck the issues with them, and some I just cannot recommend IMHO, as they or the members tended to be unchristian to say the least....

Last edited by Rick H; 05/15/22 05:20 PM.
Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end... [Re: Rick H] #194797
05/20/22 03:14 AM
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I have noticed similar patterns. This has taken the form of being excluded from conversations or blocked without warning by individuals. Given the current state of the world with signs of the times appearing more and more rapidly, people seem more inclined than ever before to discuss biblical prophecy. Unfortunately, those of other denominations seem to be becoming more deeply entrenched in their eschatological views. The jesuits have done their dark work all too well. Even so, within the growing suppression there are occasional moments of success, when souls are awakened. Though these moments are few and far between, they are well worth fighting for.


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end... [Re: Rick H] #194806
05/21/22 12:00 AM
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Forums are usually owned and operated by individuals who have set them up to achieve a certain purpose the owners of the forum would like to see happening. They do have the option to determine what is presented on those forums.

The Maritime Forum upholds the Adventist view, while other views are accepted the forum rules state: "You must either believe in or respect the 28 fundamental beliefs of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. You must also either believe in or respect one of those 28 fundamental beliefs regarding Ellen G White as a messenger of God for both her time and our time."

I've asked myself some questions, and it might be interesting to know your answers as well --
How many people have I actually convinced of our Biblical truths while debating with them or presenting what to me are convincing Bible studies concerning these truths, ON FORUMS?
How about you?

How many people have I actually met on different forums who actually want to KNOW our beliefs and the third angels message?
Even on some so called Adventist forums, basic Adventist beliefs and the third angels message are attacked while strange new ideas concerning them are pushed. It is considered being "progressive" to rework and change the very pillars of Adventist beliefs to fit more nicely in the modern Christian realm.

Somehow we need to find the people who are searching and hungry for truth --
How can we more effectively give the Loud Cry?
How can we actually reach the people's hearts and minds and get them thinking and asking --
because if they don't for themselves establish the truth of these beliefs in their own hearts and minds all the debating won't convince them.

Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end... [Re: dedication] #194808
05/21/22 06:24 AM
05/21/22 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dedication
Forums are usually owned and operated by individuals who have set them up to achieve a certain purpose the owners of the forum would like to see happening. They do have the option to determine what is presented on those forums.

The Maritime Forum upholds the Adventist view, while other views are accepted the forum rules state: "You must either believe in or respect the 28 fundamental beliefs of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. You must also either believe in or respect one of those 28 fundamental beliefs regarding Ellen G White as a messenger of God for both her time and our time."

I've asked myself some questions, and it might be interesting to know your answers as well --
How many people have I actually convinced of our Biblical truths while debating with them or presenting what to me are convincing Bible studies concerning these truths, ON FORUMS?
How about you?

How many people have I actually met on different forums who actually want to KNOW our beliefs and the third angels message?
Even on some so called Adventist forums, basic Adventist beliefs and the third angels message are attacked while strange new ideas concerning them are pushed. It is considered being "progressive" to rework and change the very pillars of Adventist beliefs to fit more nicely in the modern Christian realm.

Somehow we need to find the people who are searching and hungry for truth --
How can we more effectively give the Loud Cry?
How can we actually reach the people's hearts and minds and get them thinking and asking --
because if they don't for themselves establish the truth of these beliefs in their own hearts and minds all the debating won't convince them.


Galatians 6:9 ?And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.?

These are all valid questions. I would say that the vast majority of online debates result in no overt changes of opinion. I have seen a few rare minor changes of opinion online and even an acceptance of the Sabbath message with the individual being guided to a local church; however, this is uncommon. What is not seen is the fruit of the seed that has been planted and slowly grows, gaining momentum with each passing day. While with in person witnessing, we can often see the results of God?s Spirit working in a life, even when as has often been the case in my experience, it requires months and often years. Online this is much more difficult to gauge. We need to have faith that the Word of God will not return void.

Isaiah 55:11 ?So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.?

It is vital to always be aware that a debate between two or three individuals does not take place in a vacuum. As in the spiritual so it is in the physical world: there are clouds of unseen witnesses. If we could only realize how many silent observers are drawn by the Holy Spirit to witness these spiritual wrestling matches from the sidelines, we would see the true import and eternal weight of our actions. The seed is the Word of God. Online, we have opportunities to do more than plant individual seeds. We have the amazing opportunity to broadcast plant. Throw the Truth far and wide, trusting that providence will guide some of it to ground on good fertile soil as the parable of the sower promises. Matthew 13:8

I believe that online conversations before large, silent, audiences are some of the most powerful tools our Father has provided for the messages of the Three Angels to reach around the globe.

?Revelation 18:1-2 ?And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.?

The time is desperately short. As Rick H has said, our ability to speak freely is already being curtailed and will very soon be ended. Why would the devil be working so hard to silence free speech online if it was not having an effect for the cause of Truth? We will answer to God if we neglect the rich opportunities that have been opened to us as to no other generation before. Brothers and Sisters, this is the moment as we teeter on the edge of eternity, today is the day that we must take up the Sword of the Spirit, buckle on the full Armour of God, and above all grasp with all of our might, the Shield of Faith! Just because you do not see the results does not mean that the ten, hundred, or thousand sets of unseen eyes and ears are not focussed upon your battle both now and in the future. I have received comments on discussions in other forums as well as this one, many months and even years after the initial conversation had concluded. God is faithful!

John 4:35 ?Say not ye, There are yet four months, and [then] cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.?
John 4:37 ?And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth.?

Think of what John or Peter or Paul would have accomplished were they blessed with the tools each of us has at our fingertips?

Let me leave you with this: as I write these words, there are 4 registered members and 180 unregistered, invisible, guests on Maritime 2nd Advent Believers Online! While you do battle on other forums larger and smaller, how many ?invisible guests? are good ground for the seed you sow?

?But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.?

John 14:12 ?Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.?


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end... [Re: dedication] #194809
05/21/22 09:34 AM
05/21/22 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dedication
Forums are usually owned and operated by individuals who have set them up to achieve a certain purpose the owners of the forum would like to see happening. They do have the option to determine what is presented on those forums.

The Maritime Forum upholds the Adventist view, while other views are accepted the forum rules state: "You must either believe in or respect the 28 fundamental beliefs of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. You must also either believe in or respect one of those 28 fundamental beliefs regarding Ellen G White as a messenger of God for both her time and our time."

I've asked myself some questions, and it might be interesting to know your answers as well --
How many people have I actually convinced of our Biblical truths while debating with them or presenting what to me are convincing Bible studies concerning these truths, ON FORUMS?
How about you?

How many people have I actually met on different forums who actually want to KNOW our beliefs and the third angels message?
Even on some so called Adventist forums, basic Adventist beliefs and the third angels message are attacked while strange new ideas concerning them are pushed. It is considered being "progressive" to rework and change the very pillars of Adventist beliefs to fit more nicely in the modern Christian realm.

Somehow we need to find the people who are searching and hungry for truth --
How can we more effectively give the Loud Cry?
How can we actually reach the people's hearts and minds and get them thinking and asking --
because if they don't for themselves establish the truth of these beliefs in their own hearts and minds all the debating won't convince them.






Thats all good, but I have been on some of these forums for over 20 years, and now all of a sudden they decide to cut off or ban what I was saying all this time. Something is definitely happening and evil is behind it...

Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end... [Re: Rick H] #194810
05/21/22 07:12 PM
05/21/22 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick H
Originally Posted by dedication
Forums are usually owned and operated by individuals who have set them up to achieve a certain purpose the owners of the forum would like to see happening. They do have the option to determine what is presented on those forums.

The Maritime Forum upholds the Adventist view, while other views are accepted the forum rules state: "You must either believe in or respect the 28 fundamental beliefs of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. You must also either believe in or respect one of those 28 fundamental beliefs regarding Ellen G White as a messenger of God for both her time and our time."

I've asked myself some questions, and it might be interesting to know your answers as well --
How many people have I actually convinced of our Biblical truths while debating with them or presenting what to me are convincing Bible studies concerning these truths, ON FORUMS?
How about you?

How many people have I actually met on different forums who actually want to KNOW our beliefs and the third angels message?
Even on some so called Adventist forums, basic Adventist beliefs and the third angels message are attacked while strange new ideas concerning them are pushed. It is considered being "progressive" to rework and change the very pillars of Adventist beliefs to fit more nicely in the modern Christian realm.

Somehow we need to find the people who are searching and hungry for truth --
How can we more effectively give the Loud Cry?
How can we actually reach the people's hearts and minds and get them thinking and asking --
because if they don't for themselves establish the truth of these beliefs in their own hearts and minds all the debating won't convince them.






Thats all good, but I have been on some of these forums for over 20 years, and now all of a sudden they decide to cut off or ban what I was saying all this time. Something is definitely happening and evil is behind it...

And I am battling against that from happening on one of those forums.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

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