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Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: Rick H] #196158
08/03/23 05:23 PM
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I don't think they can control the weather, but they can sure manipulate it. God is still in control!

Another way of promoting this climate change is propaganda. A lot of twisting statistics and over emphasizing things, sensationalizing as well as censoring and hiding evidence on the other side.....

Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: dedication] #196160
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Originally Posted by dedication
I don't think they can control the weather, but they can sure manipulate it. God is still in control!

Another way of promoting this climate change is propaganda. A lot of twisting statistics and over emphasizing things, sensationalizing as well as censoring and hiding evidence on the other side.....


You didn't go to any of the links I have posted have you? It's just like so many other Christians. It's too large a hurdle to get past for you. Nobody wants to believe in that much evil being present today. Adventists should be the quickest to believe as we have a much better idea of how evil Satan is. It shouldn't surprise us at all that the devil and his agents are that destructive

Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: Rick H] #196163
08/04/23 04:12 PM
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I didn't say that don't believe there is terrible evil in the world.
But do you thing it is wrong to believe and affirm that God has ultimate control?
I believe governments are manipulating weather and trying to control it.
There's no doubt the devils are destructive. Seeking to destroy and mutilate God's creation.
Sure it's good to realize we have an enemy.
But are we to put all our focus on the evil???
I'm quite capable of working myself into stressful hopeless angst when looking at all the evil in the world. Is that what you want me to do?

Aside from being aware of what's going on, and letting it drive us closer to our Savior, I really don't see any good reason to delve deeply into it and explore all the depths of evil. The knowledge of evil is black and deadly to mind and spirit. Why go into deep mining there?

Would it affect my salvation whether I die a few years earlier because the devils have poisoned the air (something I have no control over)? The greater danger is loosing sight of our Savior and being drawn into frenzy of worry over things that don't affect our eternal salvation.

GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL, when we lose or doubt that knowledge that's when we are in real trouble.

HE WILL WIN. GOD IS FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN ALL EVIL MEN AND DEMON'S COMBINED.

Of course there's an intense battle:
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high realms.

But when we entrust and submit our lives to Christ and put on HIS armor then:

Romans 8:38 I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


For He is
Ephesians 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
1:22 And all things are put under his feet,

(not the demon's feet) all things are put in Christ's hands and under His feet -- He is in control, and He is far above all principalities, powers and rulers of darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high realms..

Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: dedication] #196164
08/04/23 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dedication
I didn't say that don't believe there is terrible evil in the world.
But do you thing it is wrong to believe and affirm that God has ultimate control?
I believe governments are manipulating weather and trying to control it.
There's no doubt the devils are destructive. Seeking to destroy and mutilate God's creation.
Sure it's good to realize we have an enemy.
But are we to put all our focus on the evil???
I'm quite capable of working myself into stressful hopeless angst when looking at all the evil in the world. Is that what you want me to do?

Aside from being aware of what's going on, and letting it drive us closer to our Savior, I really don't see any good reason to delve deeply into it and explore all the depths of evil. The knowledge of evil is black and deadly to mind and spirit. Why go into deep mining there?

Would it affect my salvation whether I die a few years earlier because the devils have poisoned the air (something I have no control over)? The greater danger is loosing sight of our Savior and being drawn into frenzy of worry over things that don't affect our eternal salvation.

GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL, when we lose or doubt that knowledge that's when we are in real trouble.

HE WILL WIN. GOD IS FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN ALL EVIL MEN AND DEMON'S COMBINED.

Of course there's an intense battle:
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high realms.

But when we entrust and submit our lives to Christ and put on HIS armor then:

Romans 8:38 I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


For He is
Ephesians 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
1:22 And all things are put under his feet,

(not the demon's feet) all things are put in Christ's hands and under His feet -- He is in control, and He is far above all principalities, powers and rulers of darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high realms..




You're missing my point. To be able to explain to nonbelievers how close we are to the end of all things just what is going on here on earth and how evil our governments are seems pretty important to me. Jesus said to be in the world but not of the world. How are we to reach as many people as we can if we don't study events that point to what scripture says will happen in the last days? Should we remain in ignorance of those things that are truly evil going on around us that the media will not tell people about?

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Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: Rick H] #196165
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Bad mouthing the king is a pretty important message we are to give the world?

Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: Garywk] #196166
08/04/23 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Garywk
Here is a video in which Lyndon Johnson spoke about weather warfare and controlling the weather. This mis all insanity brought on by the prince of this world

https://rumble.com/v32yujy-geoengineering-watch-global-alert-news-july-29-2023-416.html

Yes, I had seen that video, or at least one very much like it, from I think it was from you on another thread. Dane is convinced there really is global warming. I'm convinced that there is no way to determine such. And for sure not from the propaganda the media promotes. Dane thinks the real global warming is being hidden. I'd be more convinced global cooling is being hidden. But again, weather happens. Sometimes cooler, sometimes warmer. And only God controls the weather. Perhaps, permits satan to have some act in it.

And while man has wanted to control the weather for some time, he also wants to be god.

I was starting to become convinced something man might have done to cause cloud cover the world over the last several days. But then you read about things like this:
How the Tonga volcano eruption could have warmed the planet, study says
How come I hadn't heard that promoted? The study was published in nature in January.
Tonga eruption increases chance of temporary surface temperature anomaly above 1.5
And yet, we don't hear anything about that, but about temperature sensors in mud flats at low tide reaching 100 degrees.

Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: kland] #196167
08/04/23 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kland
Originally Posted by Garywk
Here is a video in which Lyndon Johnson spoke about weather warfare and controlling the weather. This mis all insanity brought on by the prince of this world

https://rumble.com/v32yujy-geoengineering-watch-global-alert-news-july-29-2023-416.html

Yes, I had seen that video, or at least one very much like it, from I think it was from you on another thread. Dane is convinced there really is global warming. I'm convinced that there is no way to determine such. And for sure not from the propaganda the media promotes. Dane thinks the real global warming is being hidden. I'd be more convinced global cooling is being hidden. But again, weather happens. Sometimes cooler, sometimes warmer. And only God controls the weather. Perhaps, permits satan to have some act in it.

And while man has wanted to control the weather for some time, he also wants to be god.

I was starting to become convinced something man might have done to cause cloud cover the world over the last several days. But then you read about things like this:
How the Tonga volcano eruption could have warmed the planet, study says
How come I hadn't heard that promoted? The study was published in nature in January.
Tonga eruption increases chance of temporary surface temperature anomaly above 1.5
And yet, we don't hear anything about that, but about temperature sensors in mud flats at low tide reaching 100 degrees.


Did you know technology such as HAARP can cause earthquakes? https://rumble.com/v2ah28a-uss-nitz...l-before-the-earthquake-haarp-ter.html

Here is the CIA admitting that weather warfare exists.

{url https://rumble.com/v1jsihd-c.i.a-admitts-climate-control-and-change-by-haarp.html [/url]

Here is Lyndon Johnson speaking to a college graduation speaking of controlling the world through controlling the weather.


[url] https://rumble.com/v32yujy-geoengineering-watch-global-alert-news-july-29-2023-416.html [.url]


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Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: Rick H] #196177
08/07/23 07:11 AM
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I won't say its' "different from what we thought" (see thread title)
it was all prophesied..


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Satan works through the elements also to garner his harvest of unprepared souls. He has studied the secrets of the laboratories of nature, and he uses all his power to control the elements as far as God allows....Satan has control of all whom God does not especially guard. He will favor and prosper some in order to further his own designs, and he will bring trouble upon others and lead men to believe that it is God who is afflicting them.

the Christian world have shown contempt for the law of Jehovah; and the Lord will do just what He has declared that He would?He will withdraw His blessings from the earth and remove His protecting care from those who are rebelling against His law and teaching and forcing others to do the same.

Satan has control of all whom God does not especially guard. He will favor and prosper some in order to further his own designs and he will bring trouble upon others and lead men to believe tht it is God who is afflicting them.

While appearing to the children of men as a great physician who can heal all their maladies, he will bring disease and disaster, until populous cities are reduced to ruin and desolation. Even now he is at work. In accidents and calamities by sea and by land, in great conflagrations, in fierce tornadoes and terrific hailstorms, in tempests, floods, cyclones, tidal waves, and earthquakes, in every place and in a thousand forms, Satan is exercising his power. He sweeps away the ripening harvest, and famine and distress follow. He imparts to the air a deadly taint, and thousands perish by the pestilence. These visitations are to become more and more frequent and disastrous. Destruction will be upon both man and beast. ?The earth mourneth and fadeth away,? GC 589

Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: Rick H] #196179
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I agree. It was all prophecied by both the Bible and Ellen White. Just because they couldn't understand the technologies Satan would use to destroy us doesn't make prophecy any less sure.

Re: How is the end time different than what we thought. [Re: Rick H] #196183
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Right now we're having sunshine, but I find it strange on the radar maps that most of the world is cloudy most of the time. How about others, have you been having clouds lately, more often than usual?

I'll have to watch the other links, but had seen about Johnson talking about controlling the weather. I agree, that would be a good desire for powers that be, assuming it was possible.

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