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Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20658
01/03/06 04:10 AM
01/03/06 04:10 AM
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Darius, I believe the following Scriptures support what I posted concerning the relationship between proclaiming the gospel to everyone everywhere and the second of coming of Jesus, the restoration of paradise, the end of poverty and needy souls.

Matthew
24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Galatians
1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4:4 For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

2 Timothy
3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2 Timothy
4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Titus
1:15 Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

2 Peter
2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Jude
1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20659
01/03/06 03:05 PM
01/03/06 03:05 PM
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MM, you have not shown how what you propse is different what has been done so far. The answer cannot be anything that has already happened.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20660
01/03/06 05:11 PM
01/03/06 05:11 PM
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Darius, just because Jesus hasn't returned yet doesn't mean everything we have been doing is wrong. Even if we are doing the right thing if the results are not global Jesus will not return. That is, Jesus will not return until everyone everywhere understands the great controversy and chooses either for or against the seal of God during the MOB crisis.

Revelation
2:25 But that which ye have [already] hold fast till I come.
3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20661
01/03/06 08:13 PM
01/03/06 08:13 PM
Darius  Offline OP
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You have only your opinion that that last sentence is correct. You believe it because this is part of your doctrine, but you could be wrond. Demonstrate why you are correct. After 2,000 years we cannot rely on opinion. There is too much at stake.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20662
01/03/06 11:28 PM
01/03/06 11:28 PM
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Darius, for a detailed Bible study on LDE please read the GC. I concur with everything it contains.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20663
01/04/06 12:37 PM
01/04/06 12:37 PM
Darius  Offline OP
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I like the way you duck out of the way of reality, MM.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20664
01/04/06 03:55 PM
01/04/06 03:55 PM
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Far from it. Asking you to read GC is akin to explaining to you in great detail just exactly what I believe about LDE. My views are thoroughly supported in GC by the Bible and the SOP. Reality? Read all about it in GC. Why take my word about it, when you can read it for yourself in GC. I would be more than happy to discuss anything you believe is wrongly concluded in GC. Just name it.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20665
01/05/06 04:20 AM
01/05/06 04:20 AM
Darius  Offline OP
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MM, reading GC won't change the fact that we are still here and have no plans for getting out. Point me to the part in GC that changes my opinion.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20666
01/04/06 06:14 PM
01/04/06 06:14 PM
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Darius, the "plan" is eloquently explained in great detail in GC. As a church we need to implement it. Where is the "plan" in GC? It's woven all throughout, but try reading chapter 38 - The Final Warning.

Re: The Unpreached sermon. #20667
01/04/06 06:38 PM
01/04/06 06:38 PM
Darius  Offline OP
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If you understand it you should be able to explain it in a few sentences. Have at it.

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