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Re: Not keeping the law is not breaking the law #31889
10/05/02 07:26 PM
10/05/02 07:26 PM
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Seems to me the gist of the argument about the law is that the list of ceremonial laws of the Jews is what was abolished at the cross. Jesus was the fulfillment of all the ceremonies that pointed to His coming as the Messiah. They then were no longer applicable. But the moral law is from eternity to eternity as the reasonable rules by which all humanity can live in harmony. I would like to ask you, James. Which one of the ten commandments would you get rid of, so that you may feel free to do what it prohibits?

Re: Not keeping the law is not breaking the law #31890
11/08/02 11:27 AM
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Restin.

The law that leads to Christ was not only the ceremonial law but also the Ten Commandment. This law was ended in Christ 2000 years ago and has no longer functions for Christ’ believers.

The moral law is human terms, but it is not the Ten Commandment. God’s moral law is a law that contains a moral principle based on his nature of love that seeks no self.

The Ten Commandment is a law written on stone tablets, a law that kills, a law that brought condemnation and death, a law that increases sin when we obey it, a law that made us slaves of sin when we obey it, a ministry of death.

The Ten Commandment has ceased to exist but its principle, which is God’s moral law of LOVE will exist till eternity.

This is the command given to us to keep it in our heart, and that might be only through a life by faith and a walk after the Spirit, since this love is fruit of the Spirit that opposed our nature of self-love. We can do nothing from our self to generate this love, not through obedience to the Ten Commandment, not also through combine effort with the Devine Power. The only way is emptying your self completely and lets the Spirit led you; let him do “the willing and the doing of God in you” and then “it is no longer I that live, but Christ that lives in me.”

I may do anything that break the Ten Commandment without being under it judgment because I’m not under it jurisdiction, but this will shows my unfaithfulness, and “who didn’t believe is already condemned”; who lives for the flesh will surely die; who did the deeds of the flesh will not enter heaven; who live for the flesh, Christ could not live in him and so at the end he is still a self-loving man that has no place in heaven where all holy beings live with a love that seeks no self.

In His love

James S

Re: Not keeping the law is not breaking the law #31891
11/08/02 11:49 AM
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Daryl.

This then will stand in contradiction with the Scripture as according to Paul.

The Jews has the law and the Gentiles not, so how they can come under the obligation to keep a law that is not for them and they never hear of it that will condemn them for not keeping it? Meanwhile both Jews and Gentiles were justified by faith without the law.

Sin is the transgression of the law for those who were under the law, but those who were not under the law their deeds that was against God’s principle is also a transgression, only this sin was not taken into account when there is no law, nevertheless all die. Therefore the Jews were the nation choused among the others to carried out God’s great plan of salvation by giving them a legal written law that kills them for their sins, increases their sins when they obey it, made them slaves to sin, under dominion of sin and lock them up in prison of sin. So that through the law they will be lead to Christ, their Redeemer and Savior for a justification that comes by faith without the law.

Sabbath was made for man; is not the Jews considered “man?”

All men were under sin but not all men were under the law, there is a distinction between them.

In His love

James S

Re: Not keeping the law is not breaking the law #31892
11/09/02 11:12 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Restin:
Seems to me the gist of the argument about the law is that the list of ceremonial laws of the Jews is what was abolished at the cross. Jesus was the fulfillment of all the ceremonies that pointed to His coming as the Messiah. They then were no longer applicable. But the moral law is from eternity to eternity as the reasonable rules by which all humanity can live in harmony. I would like to ask you, James. Which one of the ten commandments would you get rid of, so that you may feel free to do what it prohibits?

Restin YOU are 100 Percent correct.

I am praying for anyone who has read what has been posted on here about God's Law and that it was for the Jews only and has been done away with, that you will not accept it as truth. God's Ten Commandment's have never been done away with. Please contact one of the Moderators here on Maritime for further study in this.

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