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Re: The Dynamics of Eating Flesh Food & Vegetarian Food #38375
06/06/04 01:22 AM
06/06/04 01:22 AM
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Look again, friend John: the context is about pushing vegetarianism on the public on the same footing as our stand was with drugs and booze; in the church is another matter.

It cannot be a test of faith to join the church or salvation, but it is a sure sign of willingness to please God in all things by taking care of ourselves :

"Is it not time that all should aim to dispense with flesh foods?
How can those who are seeking to become pure, refined, and holy, that they may have the companionship of heavenly angels, continue to use as food anything that has so harmful an effect on soul and body?
How can they take the life of God's creatures that they may consume the flesh as a luxury?
Let them, rather, return to the wholesome and delicious food given to man in the beginning."
{CG 383.1}

Hey...everyone do what they are convinced of; no one can force love or understanding.

It's gonna be mighty hard finding fried chicken and sardines in heaven or the New Earth. Might as well conquer the urges now. Or do we beleive He will take that away from us at on Resurrection Day????

Re: The Dynamics of Eating Flesh Food & Vegetarian Food #38376
06/06/04 02:59 AM
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quote:
...the context is about pushing vegetarianism on the public on the same footing as our stand was with drugs and booze...
I looked again, and the context includes the church as well.

"The question whether we shall eat butter, meat, or cheese, is not to be presented to anyone as a test, but we are to educate and to show the evils of the things that are objectionable. Those who gather up these things and drive them upon others, do not know what work they are doing. The Word of God has given tests to His people. The keeping of God's holy law, the Sabbath, is a test, a sign between God and His people throughout their generations forever."
Hey, I'm as much a proponent of a vegetarian diet as anyone; I'm constantly encouraging people to give up dairy around here, both SDAs and non-SDAs. But, as she said, that's not to be a "test." And she plainly meant that for the church as well as for the general public outside the church.

It is true that "among those who are waiting for the coming of the Lord, meat-eating will eventually be done away; flesh will cease to form a part of their diet," {CTBH 119.1; CD 380} and that the time will come when we need to give up dairy and eggs as well; but still these are not to be "tests." Each is to be fully persuaded in his/her own mind.

Re: The Dynamics of Eating Flesh Food & Vegetarian Food #38377
06/06/04 05:58 AM
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Looks like we are saying the same thing, John: Eating dead animals is foolish and unwise, but one has a choice to be that way, in or out of a saving relationship with Christ.

It's like being married: a smoking husband is no reason for divorce, but that tolerance of that sick habit will not keep the wife from dodging an "ash-tray kiss" nor prevent him dying of cancer.

See what I mean?

Please the Lord: stop wrecking your health with roasted dead animals.

Re: The Dynamics of Eating Flesh Food & Vegetarian Food #38378
06/06/04 06:10 AM
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...or raw ones like on sushi [Razz]

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