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19 - The Sabbath #38797
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19. The Sabbath

The beneficent Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation.

The fourth commandment of God's unchangeable law requires the observance of this Seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath.

The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God's kingdom.

The Sabbath is God's perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people.
Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God's creative and redemptive acts.

(Gen. 2:13; Ex. 20:811; Luke 4:16; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Matt. 12:112; Ex. 31:1317; Eze. 20:12, 20; Deut. 5:1215; Heb. 4:111; Lev. 23:32; Mark 1:32.)


Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: Daryl] #131400
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Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: cephalopod] #131431
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Ceph, do you observe a different 7th day Sabbath than the rest of us?

Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: Mountain Man] #131441
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There isn't any doubt in my mind that the Sabbath is the 7th day of the week, which is what the English language refers to as Saturday. In many other languages, that same day is called Sabbath in their respective languages.

Here are some examples below:

Saturday in English is Sábado in both Spanish and Portuguese and Sabato in Italian.

The same word in Greek is Σάββατο for both Saturday and Sabbath.
The same word in Hebrew is שבת for both Saturday and Sabbath.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: Mountain Man] #131442
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I would also be interested in his answer to your question.

Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Ceph, do you observe a different 7th day Sabbath than the rest of us?


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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: Daryl] #131443
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I watched and listened to parts 1 and 2.

As the Julian calendar was being used in the time of Christ, if Christ's chosen people of Israel were observing the Sabbath on the wrong day, He would have said something, or wouldn't have observed that day with them. Surely His disciples would have known about it too.


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Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: Daryl] #131444
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Originally Posted By: Ellen White
The weekly cycle of seven literal days, six for labor, and the seventh for rest, which has been preserved and brought down through Bible history, originated in the great facts of the first seven days. {LHU 52.2}
When God spake His law with an audible voice from Sinai, He introduced the Sabbath by saying, "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy." He then declares definitely what shall be done on the six days, and what shall not be done on the seventh. He then, in giving the reason for thus observing the week, points them back to His example on the first seven days of time. "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it." {LHU 52.3}

Weeks are not based on the moon. They are not based on the sun. They are not based on any of the planets, despite the fact that the days are named after them in modern language. The week is not based on anything except the Creation tradition itself.
Originally Posted By: Ellen White
(Exodus 20:8-11). Seven Literal Days.--The weekly cycle of seven literal days, six for labor, and the seventh for rest, which has been preserved and brought down through Bible history, originated in the great fact of the first seven days (3SG 90). {1BC 1081.5}

The first week, in which God performed the work of creation in six days and rested on the seventh day, was just like every other week. The great God, in his days of creation and day of rest, measured off the first cycle as a sample for successive weeks till the close of time.... The weekly cycle of seven literal days, six for labor and the seventh for rest, which has been preserved and brought down through Bible history, originated in the great facts of the first seven days. {ST, March 20, 1879 par. 1}

If one believes Mrs. White, the weekly cycle has been preserved. If one believes the Bible, the Sabbath has always been the seventh day of the week. There was never an association between the weekly Sabbath and the moon, for the moon has no connection to the week.

There were other sabbaths given in the Levitical system apart from the weekly Sabbath. This is why we have the term "high sabbath," for though the weekly Sabbath never changed in its regular occurrence of once every seven days, the other sabbaths were based on times that included the moon, the harvest, etc. Occasionally, one of these festival sabbaths would land on a weekly Sabbath, and this was called a "high Sabbath." It is my understanding that it was just such a Sabbath at the Passover when Christ died. (See John 19:31 and {DA 774.2}.)

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: Green Cochoa] #131457
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It is impossible to have the crucifixion coincide with a Gregorian Friday at the Jewish Passover in 31 A.D.
...Using the Gregorian Calendar.

100% not possible Green Cochoa.

Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: Daryl] #131458
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The Julian Calendar was not universal in Rome, it was the primary calendar of the Senate ONLY.

Re: 19 - The Sabbath [Re: Green Cochoa] #131459
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True, the weekly cycle is 7 days - it has always been 7 days...
...6 days for work to be done followed by the 7th day Sabbath.
...I'm in full agreement with that.

What's not supported in Scripture is a "continous cycle" of 7 day weeks...
...That's what I'm saying.
...And the Sanctuary Truth confirms that as obviously as night follows the day.

Originally Posted By: Eze 46:1

Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be shut until the evening.

Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons


The six working days do not include a "Sabbath" OR "New Moon day"...
...Simply because the gates of the inner court would NEVER be open on one of the 6 working days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVrk-PpKIEA&feature=related



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