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Re: Samuel Alito #42781
11/03/05 02:13 PM
11/03/05 02:13 PM
Redfog  Offline
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Michigan, USA
Well I guess you're the one with the PhD behind your name and I'm just an uneducated bee keeper.

So do you think we as a church have it wrong in our interpretation of the prophecies concerning last day events? Do you not see any danger in the papacy having church members in high positions of the US government?

Redfog, BK, BP, GH

Re: Samuel Alito #42782
11/03/05 02:15 PM
11/03/05 02:15 PM
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Muncie, IN
quote:
Originally posted by Redfog:
Well I guess you're the one with the PhD behind your name and I'm just an uneducated bee keeper.

There you go. Unable to engage in intelligent discourse without getting down and dirty. What does one's education have to do with anything? Get that chip off your shoulder. If you want some alphabetical fragments go and pay for some.

Re: Samuel Alito #42783
11/03/05 02:17 PM
11/03/05 02:17 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Redfog:
Do you not see any danger in the papacy having church members in high positions of the US government?

Redfog, BK, BP, GH

Do you see any danger with having Adventist members in high positions in the US government?

Re: Samuel Alito #42784
11/03/05 02:50 PM
11/03/05 02:50 PM
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Darius, sorry I didn't put a smiley in there. I'm just trying to add some humor to the discussion. I've always told my highly educated wife that "education is for those that need it", [Smile]

No I do not see any danger if there were Adventist in high positions. The reason being is that I've never seen anything in prophesy to warn of that danger. With our love of religious liberty I don't think our members would do anything to restrict that freedom.

Again I ask (somewhat differently), do you believe that our church, and Mrs. White has end day events wrong in regard to the papacy in last day events?

I personally believe that in the last few years we've been seeing prophesy being fulfilled before our very eyes, though it seems as a church we're being rather blind to it.

Redfog

Re: Samuel Alito #42785
11/03/05 03:07 PM
11/03/05 03:07 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Redfog:
No I do not see any danger if there were Adventist in high positions. The reason being is that I've never seen anything in prophesy to warn of that danger. With our love of religious liberty I don't think our members would do anything to restrict that freedom.

Again I ask (somewhat differently), do you believe that our church, and Mrs. White has end day events wrong in regard to the papacy in last day events?

I personally believe that in the last few years we've been seeing prophesy being fulfilled before our very eyes, though it seems as a church we're being rather blind to it.

Redfog

I only say people are correct on prophecy when the prophecy has come to pass. We know what happened to Jonah. He misinterpreted his own prophecy. You can take from that what you will.

Re: Samuel Alito #42786
11/04/05 12:17 AM
11/04/05 12:17 AM
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Well it would seem that if a person only believes that the correct interpretation of prophesy can be ascertained after the event then the prophesy it's self is useless. If a person will only believe in the prophesy of the 2nd Advent when it has come to pass then that person can only be looking back on the event from the wrong side of New Jerusalem. Not a place I'd want to be. Prophesy is there for us to learn of future events, however if we cannot believe in the correct interpretation of prophesy then there might as well be no prophesy. If a person cannot believe in prophesy then the whole concept of Salvation becomes worthless to that person.

Redfog

Re: Samuel Alito #42787
11/04/05 01:00 AM
11/04/05 01:00 AM
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AP.WASHINGTON- "The Supreme Court's middle ground is disappearing. If Samuel Alito is confirmed, he could almost immediately begin shifting the court onto more conservative footing as it considers contentious social issues like abortion, religion and capital punishment."

This was the beginning of a AP report on Yahoo.

Redfog

Re: Samuel Alito #42788
11/04/05 02:08 AM
11/04/05 02:08 AM
Charlene Van Hook  Offline
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Posts: 603
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what does this scripture mean????

Amo 3:7
"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."


- Maranatha--- Coming Events Clearly Revealed
-PG- 160
" The Lord God does nothing without giving to his servants the prophets knowledge of his plans." Amos 3:7, N.E.B.

"The events connected with the close of probation and the work of preparation for the time of trouble, are clearly presented. But multitudes have no more understanding of these
important truths than if they had never been revealed. Satan watches to catch away every impression that would make them wise unto salvation, and the time of trouble will find them
unready."

Re: Samuel Alito #42789
11/04/05 02:24 PM
11/04/05 02:24 PM
Darius  Offline
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quote:
Originally posted by Redfog:
Well it would seem that if a person only believes that the correct interpretation of prophesy can be ascertained after the event then the prophesy it's self is useless. If a person will only believe in the prophesy of the 2nd Advent when it has come to pass then that person can only be looking back on the event from the wrong side of New Jerusalem. Not a place I'd want to be. Prophesy is there for us to learn of future events, however if we cannot believe in the correct interpretation of prophesy then there might as well be no prophesy. If a person cannot believe in prophesy then the whole concept of Salvation becomes worthless to that person.

Redfog

The Second Coming is not a prophecy; it is a promise. The purpose of prophecy is so that the children of God would not become discouraged when conditions begin to deteriorate. Try to stay away from over-reaching conclusions.

Re: Samuel Alito #42790
11/04/05 02:40 PM
11/04/05 02:40 PM
Darius  Offline
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Muncie, IN
quote:
Originally posted by Redfog:
AP.WASHINGTON- "The Supreme Court's middle ground is disappearing. If Samuel Alito is confirmed, he could almost immediately begin shifting the court onto more conservative footing as it considers contentious social issues like abortion, religion and capital punishment."

This was the beginning of a AP report on Yahoo.

Redfog

What does that have to do with your thesis. Actually, it should be wonderful to your ears since you belong to a conservative denomination.

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