You believe there are different rotational speeds and sizes of inhabitable planets throughout the universe so that Sabbath falls on different days throughout the universe? Odd as I truly believe God is a God of order rather than confusion.

Ummm... Yes, of course God is a God of order, and he doesn't need us to tell Him how to run the universe and put limitations on what He can and can't do. There are a lot of things we DO NOT KNOW or understand! Especially when it comes to sustaining a universe so vast it's totally beyond human comprehension.



What we do know is:

We know how long an Earth day is, but how about the other planets in our solar system? Everyone has a different timing to spin one full rotation?

Mercury takes 58days and 16hours and travels at 10.83 km/h
Venus takes 243days 26minutes and travels 6.52 km/h
Earth takes 23hours 56minutes and travels at 1574 km/h
Mars takes 24hours 36minutes and travels at 866 km/h
Jupiter takes only 9hours 55minutes and travels at the speed of 45,583 km/h
Saturn: 10h 33m, 36,840 km/h
Uranus: 17h 14m, 14,794 km/h
Neptune: 16h, 9,719 km/

Those are uninhabited planets so how are they relevant?

Those are uninhabited planets?
You know that for sure?

I don't know that for sure -- yes, human scientists say they aren't inhabited and couldn't sustain life, but do they know that for sure?

It seems Ellen White saw people on two of those planets in a vision in 1846.
See J.N. Loughborough's "The Great Second Advent Movement, pp. 260-261.
In "A Word to the Little Flock," p. 22, James White refers to this vision and mentions Jupiter and Saturn.
Critics use this to mock EGW.
Adventists try to cover it with explanations that what she saw was not really Jupiter or Saturn.

But it still raises questions.
Do you know for sure those are uninhabited planets?

When EARTH was created (according to several scholars) EARTH had a thick canopy surrounding it of gases and vaper that could condense into water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaCEOBJvF8s

What would EARTH have looked like from outer space, prior to the flood, when it's canopy was still intact?
Possibly appearing as a greatly larger planet than it is now, surrounded by swirling gases? Maybe?
A little probe would think it was uninhabitable, surrounded by icy vapor? Not realizing it was very much inhabited.
Yet not seeing that due to it's canopy, a canopy like surrounds Jupiter or Saturn?

I don't know, but I wonder what's under all that swirling gas of those planets?

God is a God of order, but He is NOT a God that creates everything the same. He is a genius of diversity in His created works. Just absolutely awesome in His wonderous works of creation.
Things we DON'T KNOW for sure, and can't know for sure, are not things to argue over and get upset if people don't agree.

If the Sabbath we keep a day later than the Sabbath the Australians keep is still the same Sabbath on a rotating round earth, coming to us some twenty hours later than it began in Australia, I'm not at all worried how God synchronizes Sabbath worship in His vast universe. I'll leave that up to HIM!

In that vision Ellen White also said she saw six moons. It was an assumption by Joseph Bates that she was describing Saturn and Jupiter. Is it impossible that there are other planets with the same configurations in this vast universe? No.

Well, God is a God of order, so if He put a tree of knowledge of good and evil as well as a tree of life in the inhabited worlds, He would set a Sabbath for them also. That is my line of thinking..

A separate Sabbath, or one that is consistent with the rest of the universe?

Yeah, you're right, dedication. However, I was referring to setting a 7 day cycle into place for worshiping on the same day. Daryl and Gary were referring to worshiping at the exact same time.

So the question is, is the Sabbath universally wide, to the exact minute? Or is it on the same day on a 7 day cycle? Or does everyone have their own "sabbath", some on the seventh, some on the first, or just basically random and arbitrary days, and day being meaningless as different planets having arbitrary day lengths. That there is no absolute truth.


The way I understand it, "a day earlier" is not exactly true, only part of a day. The only way it could be close to being true is for two points very close but on the opposite sides of the date line.

I casn't speak for Daryl, but I was also speaking to the same thing. A seven day cycle.