The Bible tells us that we should be presently keeping the 7th day Sabbath on this earth today, and on the new earth in the future, however, does the Bible tell us that we will also be keeping the Sabbath while we are in heaven during the 1,000 years? Do we also know from the Bible whether or not the Sabbath is being kept there now?

No response from anybody?

Doesn't the Bible say anything about this?

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Daryl this verse seems to say that we will be observing Sabbath when we are redeemed.

Isn't that reference referring to keeping the 7th day Sabbath on the New Earth after the 1,000 years in heaven has ended?

Can this reference also be used to substantiate that we will be keeping the 7th day Sabbath during the 1,000 years in heaven?

Daryl, Yes I think that has to do with the new earth. I am still looking for the 1000 yr one, if there is one. I personally believe we will be keeping the Sabbath during the 1000 yrs. I can not imagine why we would not be. If the Sabbath, and it is, is so important to God that it will be our final test why would God not have us continue keeping it during the 1000 yrs?

Psalms 72:5 They shall fear thee as long as the sun and moon endure, throughout all generations.

To Fear God is to obey Him.

To obey Him is to keep His commandments.

Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!

Deuteronomy 6:2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son’s son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.

Deuteronomy 8:6 Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.

Deuteronomy 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Q.- In Heaven does Mankind's duty to God cease ?

A. - No - Therefore commandment keeping does not cease.

Q.- In Heaven does Mankind's knowing God cease or increase ?

A. - Knowing God increases. 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Q. Will any commanment breakers be in Heaven?

A. No - because to knowingly defy God, yet claim to know Him(be one spirit with Him RE: His claims upon you - is living a lie.)

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

No one making a lie or living a lie will ever enter Heaven. Living truthfully involves keeping all ten commandments for real. That means being grafted into the life & merits of Jesus. Jesus is the Lord of Sabbath, to cease entering into Jesus Christ's Lordship of Sabbath - declares yourself under a different lord. All who enter Heaven are sealed both righteous & holy, The Father's Name(Character) is within their foreheads. Sabbath keeping / breaking issues were settled in them well before time for Heaven.

The reason why I started this topic is because somebody attending the Revelation Speaks Peace meetings has accepted the Sabbath, however, feels that it can't be kept in heaven as there isn't any day and night there, so how can you determine one day from another if there is no night there?

How would you answer him from the Bible?

Hi all, If we are in the habbit of keeping the Sabbath on this earth, why would we stop for a 1000years and then start again when the Holy City is brought down to this earth?
Greetings from the Southern Most City in the World
Dave

Folks, I believe that during that period, we will be in the presence of God at all times. To be in His presence IS to worship him. My feeling is that this will be an era of fulltime praise and thanksgiving. As mentioned above, there will be no day or night (because of the constant presence of God's glory?) so time and day keeping would not seem likely but since we'll be worshiping at all times, we cannot help but be worshiping during whatever time would be Sabbath. This may seem simplistic, but what a time of joy that will be! AMEN!

Does either the Bible or the SOP shed any light on this?

The Sabbath seems to be a symbol of the creation of this Earth which is unrelated to any other place in the universe. On planets which rotate at rates different from that of Earth, for instance, it may be that God provides a rest day every six or every eight days rather than every seven.

On that "rest" day God also promised to make Himself available for communion and friendship. As suggested in another post, God will be available all the time during the millinium. Also we should remember that the fourth "commandment" specifies that humans work on the other six days. As far as we know, we are not expected to perform any kind of labor while in heaven, so the again the Sabbath will have no meaning while we are there.

After our return to Earth, we can presume cosmology will still be the same as it is now, and we will return to the types of labor we enjoy today (without, of course, the problems sin and evil have caused us), so a weekly Sabbath will again be a joy to look forward to.

Bob Lee

I finally located the following quote:

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I was shown that the law of God would stand fast forever, and exist in the new earth to all eternity. At the creation, when the foundations of the earth were laid, the sons of God looked with admiration upon the work of the Creator, and all the heavenly host shouted for joy. It was then that the foundation of the Sabbath was laid. At the close of the six days of creation, God rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made; and He blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because that in it He had rested from all His work. The Sabbath was instituted in Eden before the fall, and was observed by Adam and Eve, and all the heavenly host. God rested on the seventh day, and blessed and hallowed it. I saw that the Sabbath never will be done away; but that the redeemed saints, and all the angelic host, will observe it in honor of the great Creator to all eternity. {EW 217.2}

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This tells me that the Sabbath will be observed by both the redeemed and all the angelic host throughout all eternity. That would also include the 1,000 years in heaven, would it not?

As this has become more of a Search For Truth topic involving searching for more info from the SOP, I have decided to move it accordingly.

Didn't I also read from the SOP somewhere that we will even have a Sabbath stopover on one of the inhabited planets on our way to heaven? I seem to remember that, however, I haven't yet located such a text.

If it actually exists and isn't a figment of my own imagination, and if so and anybody knows where it is, please share it with us here. After all, I am 50+ now.

If we will be in heaven for 1000 years then obviously time ticks in heaven too. Otherwise, how would we know when the 1000 years is ended?

No day or night, thus no time, thus no Sabbath? Not necessarily. Check out this passage:

Rev 22:23-25
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

Rev 22:5
And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

Even though the New Jerusalem, the Holy City, on the New Earth, needs no sun and has no night, we are still able to observe the Sabbath week after week. Why would it be any different in heaven?

I think this gives the answer...
"In the beginning the Father and the Son had rested upon the Sabbath after Their work of creation. When ?the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them? (Genesis 2:1), the Creator and all heavenly beings rejoiced in contemplation of the glorious scene. ?The morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy.? Job 38:7.... When there shall be a ?restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began? (Acts 3:21), the creation Sabbath, the day on which Jesus lay at rest in Joseph's tomb, will still be a day of rest and rejoicing. Heaven and earth will unite in praise, as ?from one sabbath to another? (Isaiah 66:23) the nations of the saved shall bow in joyful worship to God and the Lamb.83The Desire of Ages, 769, 770.

The nations of the saved will know no other law than the law of heaven. All will be a happy, united family, clothed with the garments of praise and thanksgiving. Over the scene the morning stars will sing together, and the sons of God will shout for joy....

?And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.? ?The glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.? ?The Lord God will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.? ?In that day shall the Lord of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people.? 84Prophets and Kings, 732, 733.

So long as the heavens and the earth endure, the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power. And when Eden shall bloom on earth again, God's holy rest day will be honored by all beneath the sun. ?From one sabbath to another? the inhabitants of the glorified new earth shall go up ?to worship before me, saith the Lord.? Isaiah 66:23.85The Desire of Ages, 283."

From Maranatha - Page 371 https://whiteestate.org/devotional/mar/12_29/

It seems to me that at the creation of this earth, God set the earth in rotation at a certain speed to coincide with the already existing 7 day cycle of the universe. Otherwise, everyone would be in their own "rest zones" and the Sabbath wouldn't really mean anything anywhere other than on earth and was arbitrarily initiated.

Either that or God timed the first day so that the seventh day would be the same seventh-day throughout all creation.

I don't see how anything other than a combination of your comment and kland's
comment can be true. Creation had to both start and continue in the same timing as the rest of God's creation as if it didn't earth would eventually be out of sync with rest of the universe.

This sounds a bit like the arguments people bring up due to the time lines here on earth.
People seem to have a problem understanding that indeed there are different "rest zones" even here on earth. For example, we here in western Canada spent today enjoying a Sabbath, while over in Australia Sabbath was yesterday a day earlier.

You believe there are different rotational speeds and sizes of inhabitable planets throughout the universe so that Sabbath falls on different days throughout the universe? Odd as I truly believe God is a God of order rather than confusion.

Ummm... Yes, of course God is a God of order, and he doesn't need us to tell Him how to run the universe and put limitations on what He can and can't do. There are a lot of things we DO NOT KNOW or understand! Especially when it comes to sustaining a universe so vast it's totally beyond human comprehension.



What we do know is:

We know how long an Earth day is, but how about the other planets in our solar system? Everyone has a different timing to spin one full rotation?

Mercury takes 58days and 16hours and travels at 10.83 km/h
Venus takes 243days 26minutes and travels 6.52 km/h
Earth takes 23hours 56minutes and travels at 1574 km/h
Mars takes 24hours 36minutes and travels at 866 km/h
Jupiter takes only 9hours 55minutes and travels at the speed of 45,583 km/h
Saturn: 10h 33m, 36,840 km/h
Uranus: 17h 14m, 14,794 km/h
Neptune: 16h, 9,719 km/

Those are uninhabited planets so how are they relevant?

Those are uninhabited planets?
You know that for sure?

I don't know that for sure -- yes, human scientists say they aren't inhabited and couldn't sustain life, but do they know that for sure?

It seems Ellen White saw people on two of those planets in a vision in 1846.
See J.N. Loughborough's "The Great Second Advent Movement, pp. 260-261.
In "A Word to the Little Flock," p. 22, James White refers to this vision and mentions Jupiter and Saturn.
Critics use this to mock EGW.
Adventists try to cover it with explanations that what she saw was not really Jupiter or Saturn.

But it still raises questions.
Do you know for sure those are uninhabited planets?

When EARTH was created (according to several scholars) EARTH had a thick canopy surrounding it of gases and vaper that could condense into water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaCEOBJvF8s

What would EARTH have looked like from outer space, prior to the flood, when it's canopy was still intact?
Possibly appearing as a greatly larger planet than it is now, surrounded by swirling gases? Maybe?
A little probe would think it was uninhabitable, surrounded by icy vapor? Not realizing it was very much inhabited.
Yet not seeing that due to it's canopy, a canopy like surrounds Jupiter or Saturn?

I don't know, but I wonder what's under all that swirling gas of those planets?

God is a God of order, but He is NOT a God that creates everything the same. He is a genius of diversity in His created works. Just absolutely awesome in His wonderous works of creation.
Things we DON'T KNOW for sure, and can't know for sure, are not things to argue over and get upset if people don't agree.

If the Sabbath we keep a day later than the Sabbath the Australians keep is still the same Sabbath on a rotating round earth, coming to us some twenty hours later than it began in Australia, I'm not at all worried how God synchronizes Sabbath worship in His vast universe. I'll leave that up to HIM!

In that vision Ellen White also said she saw six moons. It was an assumption by Joseph Bates that she was describing Saturn and Jupiter. Is it impossible that there are other planets with the same configurations in this vast universe? No.

Well, God is a God of order, so if He put a tree of knowledge of good and evil as well as a tree of life in the inhabited worlds, He would set a Sabbath for them also. That is my line of thinking..

A separate Sabbath, or one that is consistent with the rest of the universe?

Yeah, you're right, dedication. However, I was referring to setting a 7 day cycle into place for worshiping on the same day. Daryl and Gary were referring to worshiping at the exact same time.

So the question is, is the Sabbath universally wide, to the exact minute? Or is it on the same day on a 7 day cycle? Or does everyone have their own "sabbath", some on the seventh, some on the first, or just basically random and arbitrary days, and day being meaningless as different planets having arbitrary day lengths. That there is no absolute truth.


The way I understand it, "a day earlier" is not exactly true, only part of a day. The only way it could be close to being true is for two points very close but on the opposite sides of the date line.

I casn't speak for Daryl, but I was also speaking to the same thing. A seven day cycle.