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"The Most Popular Adventist Sin" ?? #49896
12/21/05 09:47 AM
12/21/05 09:47 AM
razorren  Offline OP
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Very interesting article below. Is it true?

SCANBERTE LUNDERSONDT1 GREW UP in the Seventh-day Adventist Church, attended church school, academy, and college because of the loving sacrifice of his working-class parents. He obtained a M.Div. from the Andrews University Theological Seminary, married a from a professional-class Adventist family, and became a pastor. He had finally "arrived," and to all appearances had achieved the "Adventist dream."

Scanberte may carry some painful baggage from the past, though. He may have felt like a second-class citizen in school, because his dad wasn't a doctor, lawyer, or other professional with a college degree. (Some professionals' kids have a special talent for evoking this feeling in others.) This feeling may have intensified in academy and college along with the pressures of who-you-are and what-you-have, and he worked with all earnestness to obtain his degrees and improve his socioeconomic status. In the depths of his heart, where we often push the most painful and shameful elements of our lives, he may be somewhat ashamed of his parents for their modest or lowly status compared with that of his in-laws. Perhaps he tries hard to please his wife's parents, but his heart is pierced because, in that deepest place, he feels they believe their daughter could have "done better." And perhaps he's afraid that on some level, their daughter believes so as well.

We need to deal gently with Scanberte, for as Jesus says: "Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets" (Matt. 7:12).2 We also need to deal straightforwardly with him, because he has some attitudes and motives that are bearing unwholesome and even harmful fruit.

A pernicious temptation that Scanberte, like some of his colleagues, may have succumbed to is that based on the human tendency toward one-upmanship--to be ahead of one's fellows in some way. It is the perception that professional churches and members are better than their working-class counterparts.


Full article here: http://www.adventistreview.org/2004-1517/story2.html

--Ren

Re: "The Most Popular Adventist Sin" ?? #49897
12/21/05 03:33 PM
12/21/05 03:33 PM
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Most popular? Perhaps the most secretive, yes, but it's all around us in the church so that we notice the exceptions, instead.

There are those professionals in the church who are known to treat all classes of people in our midst with dignity. They're labelled as Christian gentlemen and women: are they in such short supply?

The upper and middle classes in society and the church also deserve respect from their own and the working class folk (yes, I'm revealing my standing [Wink] ) since they've put in the hard work to maintain their station. The right attitude should accompany them, as well. The case of this pastor deserves unstinting respect from his in-laws, since he's improved his station.

The TV character Jessica Fletcher portrays this well. She mixes with the ordinary and the rich with equal ease, respecting both. What isn't well known is that Angela Landsbury (the actress) made the dream for herself: she was born and raised in London's East End - the poorest part of town, and made it to America by herself to enter & make her career in acting.

The right attitude of humility is the solution which we all need.

Re: "The Most Popular Adventist Sin" ?? #49898
12/22/05 05:47 PM
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And is it any wonder why nepotism is the most pervasive influence in retention of workers in this denomination? It is therefore this humble man's opinion to work in irregular lines.

Dennis

Re: "The Most Popular Adventist Sin" ?? #49899
12/27/05 10:16 PM
12/27/05 10:16 PM
DebbieB  Offline
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Unfortunately I have seen the reverse of being poor and on the bread line being made out to be a virtue (It isn't!) and I have seen and experienced the professionals looking down on 'newcomers' if their lineage isn't right and I must admit that I find both situations equally daunting, and both are equally unacceptable really!

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There are those professionals in the church who are known to treat all classes of people in our midst with dignity. They're labelled as Christian gentlemen and women: are they in such short supply?

The upper and middle classes in society and the church also deserve respect from their own and the working class folk (yes, I'm revealing my standing ) since they've put in the hard work to maintain their station. The right attitude should accompany them, as well. The case of this pastor deserves unstinting respect from his in-laws, since he's improved his station.

Was this not the way which Jesus dealt with people? He accepted people where they were rich or poor (one might say professional or working class) and lifted them to seeking better things!


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