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What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73609
04/21/06 08:31 PM
04/21/06 08:31 PM
Darius  Offline OP
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So Vaster, where is the evidence that "the bible is the only book on earth that contains pure information about who the creator of our universe is and how this creator relates to humans?" Even the bible does not contain that claim. In fact it contains the direct opposite.

Last edited by Daryl Fawcett; 04/21/06 10:29 PM.

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Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73610
04/21/06 10:35 PM
04/21/06 10:35 PM
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I moved Darius' post here and made a whole new topic out of it, therefore, let this be discussed here as a new topic.


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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73611
04/22/06 01:58 AM
04/22/06 01:58 AM
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Quote:

In fact it contains the direct opposite.




May I ask YOU where THIS evidence is?

Agreed that Thomas’ claim must be backed with a measure of faith. But since the Bible DOES imply that it is the word of God—God is pure—it seems His word, notwithstanding human writers, is pure none the less. You believe in the place where your faith takes you.

Jeff

Edited to remove the html tags that don't seem to work with this site.

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[i]...Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.</i]
Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73612
04/22/06 11:49 AM
04/22/06 11:49 AM
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The evidence is in Rom. 1:20.

Be careful of attributing to "the Bible" what should be attributed to "the writers of the Bible." That said, the claim is never made that the Bible is the only scripture.

Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73613
04/22/06 11:56 AM
04/22/06 11:56 AM
Darius  Offline OP
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Daryl, I was allowed to post even though I was not logged in. Did you change stuff?


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Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73614
04/22/06 12:46 PM
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Darius
Starting by objecting to my claim on the basis that I didnt provide evidence and then making the opposite claim also without any evidence? How about some consistency. If the problem is lack of evidence backing claims made, the logical step for you would be scrupulous referencing of your own claims wouldnt it? As a PhD you ougth to be well trained in this art.

Now to whats said in the bible about its content.
Jeremiah 30 : 1The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
2Thus speaketh the LORD God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.
3For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
4And these are the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.

Jeremiah 36 : 1And it came to pass in the fourth year of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, that this word came unto Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
2Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
3It may be that the house of Judah will hear all the evil which I purpose to do unto them; that they may return every man from his evil way; that I may forgive their iniquity and their sin.
4Then Jeremiah called Baruch the son of Neriah: and Baruch wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the LORD, which he had spoken unto him, upon a roll of a book.

Habakkuk 2 : 1I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved.
2And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
3For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.

1 Corinthians 14 : 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

2 Timothy 3 : 15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

John 7 : 37In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

John 2 : 22When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

1 Thessalonians 5 : 27I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.

Isaiah 34 : 16Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

Matthew 19:4
Mathew 21:42
Mark 12:10
Etc, etc

Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73615
04/22/06 06:56 PM
04/22/06 06:56 PM
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Vaster, the Bible did not exist when any of those passages you posted was written. Your claim is unfounded.

Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73616
04/22/06 11:48 PM
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I give up, this is quite pointless. I could aswell spend my time discussing the existence of God with hard core atheists. And theyd probably be more reasonable...

/Thomas


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73617
04/23/06 12:13 AM
04/23/06 12:13 AM
Darius  Offline OP
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Vaster, you think it is pointless because you wish to forget the history of the Bible while making false claims for it. We need to keep to the truth.


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Re: What Are The Claims Of The Bible? #73618
04/23/06 12:39 AM
04/23/06 12:39 AM
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Darius,

The Word of God whenever it was written is still the Word of God. The Bible, as the Word of God, therefore, must be respected in any forum of MSDAOL, otherwise,......


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Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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