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Advice to new believers #80879
11/08/06 08:02 PM
11/08/06 08:02 PM
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vastergotland  Offline OP
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Imagen the situation that you are witnessing to a person and that person comes to Jesus and confesses belief in Him. The person then turns to you with a question that worries them. In their job, they work with daily care for a muslim. This includes helping the guy pray and the only safe way to do that involves bowing with him. So this person is worried. What will God think about me bowing to Allah in my daily job caring for this devote muslim.

What would YOU advice this new believer to do?

/Thomas


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: vastergotland] #80929
11/09/06 08:45 PM
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vastergotland  Offline OP
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Does the silence mean that none of you have anything to say to such a situation as this?


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: vastergotland] #80942
11/10/06 11:53 AM
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My answer would be as a new believer myself. In your scenario it appears that the new believer is a caregiver and the muslim is a patient. If that be the case, my inclination would be to help the muslim with his prayers. I may be wrong, but don't chaplains help believers of all denominations and religious affililations? Why should a *regular* Christian be any different??

Besides, people bow to many things every day...doesn't mean they are actually *praying* to the things. And I don't think praying necessarily equates to worship. But then, neither does worship necessarily equate to praying

But I'm wrong lots of times....this may be another..


One thing God has spoken,
two things have I heard:
that you, O God, are strong.
And that you, O God, are loving.

~ Psalms 62:11,12 ~
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: vastergotland] #80990
11/11/06 12:17 AM
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2 Kings 5:17 & 18


Gregory
May God's will be done.
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: Gregory] #80991
11/11/06 01:53 AM
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That was the same verse I was going to give also that Gregory gave. The Lord knows the heart of this caregiver also.

Re: Advice to new believers [Re: Avalee] #80993
11/11/06 02:04 AM
11/11/06 02:04 AM
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Here is what it says:

Quote:

2 Kings 5:17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules' burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the LORD.
18 In this thing the LORD pardon thy servant, that when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the LORD pardon thy servant in this thing.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Advice to new believers [Re: Daryl] #81008
11/11/06 11:51 PM
11/11/06 11:51 PM
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vastergotland  Offline OP
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The question is indeed cut and paste from 2 Kings 5:17-18. However, the question was NOT "where can you find the bible speaking about this". The question was "What would YOU advice this new believer to do?". I assume that it will not come as a suprise to the posters here that what the bible advices us to do and what we acctually would do, if daring to be honest with outselves, is far from always the same thing.

I appreciate your answere charis. Now lets see if Gregory, Avalee and Daryl will follow your lead. I know it is hard for long-time SDAs to leave theory and move in to practical daily living examples but that doesnt mean that we shouldnt at least try to do so.

/Thomas


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: vastergotland] #81017
11/12/06 01:49 AM
11/12/06 01:49 AM
Daryl  Online Canadian

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I think the Bible should be our guide in our daily living, therefore, finding and sharing something from the Bible in response to the question is a very appropriate response.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: Daryl] #81029
11/12/06 09:48 AM
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vastergotland  Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Daryl Fawcett
I think the Bible should be our guide in our daily living, therefore, finding and sharing something from the Bible in response to the question is a very appropriate response.
Daily living is our codeword here Daryl. So, do you have an example of when you have been guided by 2 Kings 5:17 & 18 in YOUR daily life?


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: vastergotland] #81045
11/12/06 05:06 PM
11/12/06 05:06 PM
Daryl  Online Canadian

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Well, if I were ever in that situation, I would have 2 Kings 5:17-18 to go by.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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