HOME CHAT ROOM #1 CHAT ROOM #2 Forum Topics Within The Last 7 Days REGISTER ENTER FORUMS BIBLE SCHOOL CONTACT US

Maritime 2nd Advent Believers OnLine Christian Family Fellowship Forums
(formerly Maritime SDA OnLine)
Consisting mainly of both members and friends of the Seventh-day Adventist Church
Welcomes and invites other members and friends of the Seventh-day Adventist Church to join us!

Click Here To Read Legal Notice & Disclaimer
Suggested a One Time Yearly $20 or Higher Donation Accepted Here to Help Cover the Yearly Expenses of Operating & Upgrading. We need at least $20 X 10 yearly donations.
Donations accepted: Here
ShoutChat Box
Newest Members
ekoorb1030, jibb555, MBloomfield, Dina, Nelson
1323 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums118
Topics9,199
Posts195,616
Members1,323
Most Online5,850
Feb 29th, 2020
Seventh-day Adventist Church In Canada Links
Seventh-day Adventist Church in Canada

Newfoundland & Labrador Mission

Maritime Conference

Quebec Conference

Ontario Conference

Manitoba-Saskatchewan Conference

Alberta Conference

British Columbia Conference

7 Top Posters(30 Days)
Rick H 20
kland 9
Daryl 4
May
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Member Spotlight
ProdigalOne
ProdigalOne
Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1,185
Joined: June 2015
Show All Member Profiles 
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
Live Space Station Tracking
Here is a link to show exactly where the Space Station is over earth right now: Click Here
Last 7 Pictures From Photo Gallery Forums
He hath set an harvest for thee
Rivers Of Living Water
He Leads Us To Green Pastures
Remember What God Has Done
Remember The Sabbath
"...whiter than snow..."
A Beautiful Spring Day
Who's Online
5 registered members (dedication, Karen Y, Kevin H, Daryl, 1 invisible), 3,318 guests, and 23 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: Steve Claborn] #81170
11/15/06 02:35 AM
11/15/06 02:35 AM
Daryl  Online Canadian

Site Administrator
23000+ Member
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,122
Nova Scotia, Canada
Seeing there is a Bible example covering that type of situation, it seems OK to me.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: Daryl] #81172
11/15/06 03:07 AM
11/15/06 03:07 AM
charis  Offline
Posting New Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 25
USA

Bowing and/or kneeling IS an act of worship in some pagan communities. I suppose it depends on if one is aware of the intricacies of said *worship* as to whether the Biblical advice is applicable? If one does not KNOW it is considered worship, maybe it is okay?


One thing God has spoken,
two things have I heard:
that you, O God, are strong.
And that you, O God, are loving.

~ Psalms 62:11,12 ~
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: charis] #81173
11/15/06 03:11 AM
11/15/06 03:11 AM
Daryl  Online Canadian

Site Administrator
23000+ Member
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,122
Nova Scotia, Canada
Personally, I wouldn't do it, as for me, it would be wrong, however, I think it is a matter of personal conviction.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: charis] #81187
11/15/06 03:45 PM
11/15/06 03:45 PM
G
Gregory  Offline
SDA
Chaplain

Active Member 2022
Most Dedicated Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,364
USA
Act of worship: What is it?

I will suggest that God looks at the intent of the heart.

Let me illustrate: In recent times I have been reading books on Hinduism. Hinduism does not have the concern for intent that mose of us have. Hinduism is more concerned about actions. Therefore, an unbelieving person may perform a act that the Hindu sees as an act of worship.

Case in point: When I eat vegetarian food in an Indian restaurant, run by a Hindu, I probably will participate, without intending to do so, in an act of Hindu worship.

Does that stop me from eating good vegetarian food in such a restaurant? No. Should it? You decide.

However, I believe that the sensitive person will consider the effect on other people.


Gregory
May God's will be done.
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: Gregory] #81221
11/16/06 02:28 PM
11/16/06 02:28 PM
charis  Offline
Posting New Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 25
USA
So...God will consider acts of worship within the context of each person and the situation he/she is in? What are considered ADVENTIST acts of worship (as opposed to other denominational acts of worship)? Or is that also purely personal?

Sorry...I'm fishing for something here, but I'm not sure what it is...


One thing God has spoken,
two things have I heard:
that you, O God, are strong.
And that you, O God, are loving.

~ Psalms 62:11,12 ~
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: charis] #81232
11/17/06 01:07 AM
11/17/06 01:07 AM
Daryl  Online Canadian

Site Administrator
23000+ Member
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,122
Nova Scotia, Canada
As long as the person isn't really worshipping a false god himself, then I think you are correct.

God knows the heart. That is why He is the perfect Judge.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: charis] #81244
11/17/06 02:45 PM
11/17/06 02:45 PM
G
Gregory  Offline
SDA
Chaplain

Active Member 2022
Most Dedicated Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,364
USA
Re: "What are considered ADVENTIST acts of worship . . ."

I would be hard pressed to mention any act of worship that is solely SDA. Just about everything that we do is also done by other groups--even foot washing is done by several groups, although there may be some minor differences.

NOTE: There is a once a year foot washing service that is held by the Roman Catholic church. It differe from what we do, but is a foot washing service.


Gregory
May God's will be done.
Re: Advice to new believers [Re: Gregory] #81296
11/18/06 04:19 PM
11/18/06 04:19 PM
Rosangela  Offline
5500+ Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,154
Brazil
What I would do. I would see nothing wrong if I had to bow in order to help the person to bow, as long as I had made clear to the person that I was doing him a favor, and not worshiping his god, for I worship a different God (whom I would try to share with him if there is an opportunity to do so).

Re: Advice to new believers [Re: vastergotland] #81987
12/03/06 02:22 AM
12/03/06 02:22 AM
G
gordonb1  Offline
SDA
Active Member 2014

Veteran Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 936
Quebec
Hello Thomas,

Originally Posted By: Thomas
Are you purposefully missconstructing my point here or did it just happen by mistake? Let me try again. 'Now lets see if Gregory, Avalee and Daryl will grace this thread with comments of a more personal character.

No I did not intentionally misconstrue your statement. I am sorry if it appeared thus. Those persons listed had all given responses from the Bible which seemed appropriate (on a Christian forum) and of the highest authority. Our Savoiur responded to many questions in like fashion. I now see that you were looking for something else, so I misread your meaning.


I am unsure why we would want to try and inquire of others how their actions would deviate from the Bible instruction. It is true many lack faith or knowledge to follow God's Word. But is it our business to investigate and highlight their lack of faith? (I think not - your thoughts may differ). Such was the work of the Roman Inquisition over centuries and was the method used by the scribes & pharisees to accuse Christ - they tried to trap Him with their words to find His deviation from Scripture.


Originally Posted By: Thomas
The point I apparently failed to make is that adventists in general (at least the ones Ive meet, in RL and especially online) are much more prone to talk about theory or theology, but try and ask for an example from practical living and recieve poor or stumbling answeres before a hasty retreat to the familiar grounds of theory or theology is made.

This may be very true Thomas, but examining others for their faults will not bring the solution. Lack of faith is the problem of sin. For this reason I asked if 'you follow the Bible's advice and to tell of your victories.' This could bring some light and encouragement as you have indicated:
Originally Posted By: Thomas
In fact, a person who through Christ is living and overcoming sin ought to have much to tell about practical life and his/her experiences of it.

You are correct Thomas. Please tell of your victories, it would be welcome advice for new believers,

Gordon

Re: Advice to new believers [Re: vastergotland] #81989
12/03/06 04:32 AM
12/03/06 04:32 AM
J
John Boskovic  Offline
Dedicated Member
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,196
Ontario
Originally Posted By: västergötland
Imagen the situation that you are witnessing to a person and that person comes to Jesus and confesses belief in Him. The person then turns to you with a question that worries them. In their job, they work with daily care for a muslim. This includes helping the guy pray and the only safe way to do that involves bowing with him. So this person is worried. What will God think about me bowing to Allah in my daily job caring for this devote muslim.

What would YOU advice this new believer to do?
/Thomas

Your question establishes a rather theoretical conversion. It establishes that the new believer has confessed “belief” in Christ, and now he is worried about what God thinks about it. That is a fairly normal response of one who got to know "about" someone who he has to “worry” about.

I would tell my friend that he needs to discover his Savior personally and receive "His Rest" personally. Then he will hear the voice of the Lord bid him what He will. Moreover, I can assure you that when my friend has discovered the Joy of the Lord’s Salvation, he will not be able to hide it from his Muslim friend, and will be bubbling over with the testimony of his God.

Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderator  dedication, Rick H 

Sabbath School Lesson Study Material Link
Here is the link to this week's Sabbath School Lesson Study and Discussion Material: Click Here
Most Recent Posts From Selected Public Forums
2nd Quarter 2024 The Great Controversy
by dedication. 05/03/24 02:55 AM
Seven Trumpets reconsidered
by Karen Y. 04/30/24 10:34 PM
Are the words in the Bible "imperfect"?
by Rick H. 04/26/24 06:05 PM
Nebuchadnezzar Speaks: The Sunday Law
by dedication. 04/22/24 05:15 PM
Nebuchadnezzar Speaks: Part Two
by TruthinTypes. 04/21/24 11:14 PM
Where is the crises with Climate mandates?
by dedication. 04/21/24 09:25 PM
Iran strikes Israel as War Expands
by dedication. 04/21/24 05:07 PM
What Happens at the End.
by Rick H. 04/20/24 11:39 AM
Global Warming Farce
by kland. 04/18/24 05:51 PM
Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine?
by kland. 04/11/24 12:24 PM
Chinese Revival?
by ProdigalOne. 04/06/24 06:12 PM
Carbon Dioxide What's so Bad about It?
by Daryl. 04/05/24 12:04 PM
Most Recent Posts From Selected Private Forums of MSDAOL
What Does EGW Say About Ordination?
by Rick H. 05/03/24 07:26 PM
When Does Satan Impersonate Christ?
by Rick H. 05/03/24 10:09 AM
Is There A Connection Between WO & LGBTQ?
by dedication. 05/02/24 08:58 PM
The Papacy And The American Election
by Rick H. 04/30/24 09:34 AM
The Wound Is Healed! The Mark Is Forming!
by dedication. 04/22/24 06:04 PM
Christian Nationalism/Sunday/C
limate Change

by Rick H. 04/13/24 10:19 AM
A Second American Civil War?
by kland. 04/11/24 12:39 PM
A.I. - The New God?
by kland. 04/11/24 12:34 PM
Perils of the Emerging Church Movement
by ProdigalOne. 04/06/24 07:10 PM
Forum Announcements
Visitors by Country Since February 11, 2013
Flag Counter
Google Maritime SDA OnLine Public Forums Site Search & Google Translation Service
Google
 
Web www.maritime-sda-online.com

Copyright 2000-Present
Maritime 2nd Advent Believers OnLine (formerly Maritime SDA OnLine).

LEGAL NOTICE:
The views expressed in this forum are those of individuals
and do not necessarily represent those of Maritime 2nd Advent Believers OnLine,
as well as the Seventh-day Adventist Church
from the local church level to the General Conference level.

Maritime 2nd Advent Believers OnLine (formerly Maritime SDA OnLine) is also a self-supporting ministry
and is not part of, or affiliated with, or endorsed by
The General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists headquartered in Silver Spring, Maryland
or any of its subsidiaries.

"And He saith unto them, follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men." Matt. 4:19
MARITIME 2ND ADVENT BELIEVERS ONLINE (FORMERLY MARITIME SDA ONLINE) CONSISTING MAINLY OF BOTH MEMBERS & FRIENDS
OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH,
INVITES OTHER MEMBERS & FRIENDS OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD WHO WISHES TO JOIN US!
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1