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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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02/04/07 07:35 AM
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One main area where this command of the Mosaic law has been misapplied is in using it as an excuse to condone sin. A church that loves sin will paint the loving reproofs of those who resist the tide of evil as not good neighbours, but look at verse 17. ...thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
One of the main benefits of the study of the Mosaic Law is that it will restore our sense of balance. Its study would help cure a worldly view of love that displaces the abiding principles of the word with mere sentimintality on the one hand, and a sharply critical and judgmental attitude on the other. It's often those who are the most ready to condone sin in a brother who are also the most judgmental of those who are genuinely trying to help him. And what when the Mosaic law says, you do so and so and you shall surely die, while the NT says, you are free to do so-and-so in Christ? What then? Witness for example the case of the woman caught in adultery and how this might have played out differently. If the Pharisees who were attempting to trap Christ had applied these few verses of the Mosaic law in their own neighbourhood and church – ‘Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: [but] in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour,’ - they would have held the men accountable first who were guilty of committing the greater sin.
This might not be the best of examples since these people knew all of these verses by heart, and worked very very hard to straw all the gnats that came their way. But as they where trying to trap Jesus, justice wasnt on their agenda. And further, while an emphasis on the law might, I say might, produce good conduct, it will not produce neither love nor compassion. Jesus rebuked these people for that aswell. (Have you ever seen a loving pharisee in your church or anywhere else?)
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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02/04/07 10:56 AM
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I think the quicksand marsh that you warn about on the left side of the road is a legitimate concern. However, if the solution takes you to be balancing on the verge to the abyss on the other side of the road, thats a legitimate concern aswell.
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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I do not see a significant shift from the OT to the NT so far as the principles of the Mosaic Law is concerned. Just because the church in the NT no longer operates under a theocracy in the same way the nation of Israel did in the OT, especially as it applies to the death penalty, it doesn't mean God has changed His mind about it in the NT.
The judicial aspect of the Mosaic Law is just as binding and legitimate in the NT as it was in the OT. The only difference in the NT is that God will execute the death penalty Himself at the end of time in the lake of fire. This is not to say that the Jews in the OT were not also required to "give place unto wrath" or to "overcome evil with good".
Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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The judicial aspect of the Mosaic Law is just as binding and legitimate in the NT as it was in the OT. The only difference in the NT is that God will execute the death penalty Himself at the end of time in the lake of fire. !
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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And further, while an emphasis on the law might, I say might, produce good conduct, it will not produce neither love nor compassion. Jesus rebuked these people for that aswell. (Have you ever seen a loving pharisee in your church or anywhere else?) I'm not making a comment one way or the other about the Mosaic law here, but just pointing out that what the pharisee was not an emphasis on the law. That was a symptom. The problem of the pharisee was not due to the law.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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02/05/07 12:59 PM
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Leviticus chapters 1-7 Laws on offerings. Leviticus chapters 8-9 The anointing of the tabernacle and priesthood. Leviticus chapters 10 The unclean fire of Nadab and Abihu Leviticus chapters 11 Laws on food animals Leviticus chapters 12-15 Laws on uncleanness before the Lord Leviticus chapters 16 Laws for the priest for the day of atonement Leviticus chapters 17 Laws on the butchering of animals Leviticus chapters 18 Laws on sexual relationships Leviticus chapters 19-20 Laws relating to the 10 + some apparently miscellaneous others Leviticus chapters 21-22 Laws relating to the priests Leviticus chapters 23 The feasts of Israel Leviticus chapters 24 Miscellaneous temple routine and capital crimes Leviticus chapters 25 Laws on sabbath years and jubilee years, laws on acceptable slavery and servanthood Leviticus chapters 26 Promises and threats on the people for their following the law Leviticus chapters 27 The value of man and beast and possessions in gold
How much of this relate to us, today?
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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And further, while an emphasis on the law might, I say might, produce good conduct, it will not produce neither love nor compassion. Jesus rebuked these people for that aswell. (Have you ever seen a loving pharisee in your church or anywhere else?) I'm not making a comment one way or the other about the Mosaic law here, but just pointing out that what the pharisee was not an emphasis on the law. That was a symptom. The problem of the pharisee was not due to the law. What if the problem of the pharisee was due to making such an effort to keep the law that anything else was secoundary? As in "I do not care if this man was suffering or not, the law says no work, and it means NO WORK!!!. And yet here you come and do work to heal him?? How dare you break the sabbath by healing this man?, and they went away plotting to kill him..."
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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02/05/07 01:32 PM
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As with all laws the nature of the righteusness of him who is applying the law is the issue.
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: The righteousness and majesty of the Mosaic Law
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02/06/07 02:18 AM
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What John said. The problem is with the person, not the law.
We have the same issue with the Spirit of Prophecy, as an example. These writings can be the greatest of blessing, or used like a sledge hammer in a way she never intended.
The problem of the pharisee (to find one, look in the mirror), is the disposition to judge another, or oneself, according to man-made rules and ideas. The law was given because of transgression, in order to lead us to repentance, to lead us to Christ. However, as Paul puts it, the law can be used unlawfully. Then the final result is to take one using the law further away from God rather than closer to Him. But is the problem with the law? May it never be! The law is holy, and just, and good.
There's sort of a catch 22 here, a vicious circle. The solution is to somehow see the truth about God, who is gracious, wonderfully merciful, kind, forgiving and patient. Once we get a glimpse of His true character, then these other things fall into place. Christ had this in mind when He said, "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these other things shall be added unto you."
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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