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What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
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02/19/07 09:15 PM
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In another topic here we have been discussing things in connection with the foreknowledge of God, therefore, what is the truth about the foreknowledge of God?
In order to answer the above question, perhaps we should first answer the following question:
What is the "foreknowledge" of God in the sense of what does the word mean?
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/19/07 10:39 PM
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"Foreknowledge" means knowledge of future events.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
[Re: Tom]
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02/19/07 10:41 PM
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I wonder if everyone would agree that God knows the future as it is.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
[Re: Tom]
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02/20/07 10:41 PM
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How is "foreknowledge" defined?
An online dictionary defines it as "Knowledge or awareness of something before its existence or occurrence; prescience."
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
[Re: Tom]
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02/21/07 02:29 AM
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I wonder if everyone would agree that God knows the future as it is. Not as it is, but as it was.
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
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02/21/07 01:28 PM
02/21/07 01:28 PM
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Not as it is, or as it was, but as it will be. 
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
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02/21/07 03:19 PM
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Daryl, in the case of God it is all three. Knowledge of the past, present, and future are, from God's perspective, one.
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
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02/21/07 04:47 PM
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Scripture does not present God as acting outside of time, but rather as in it. It present Him as experiencing the reality of time as we do. There are scores upon scores of examples of this, of which I will mention just a few: a)The Scriptures present God as being disappointed when things turn out differently than He hoped: Then the LORD said to me in the days of Josiah the king, "Have you seen what faithless Israel did? She went up on every high hill and under every green tree, and she was a harlot there.
I thought, 'After she has done all these things she will return to Me'; but she did not return, and her treacherous sister Judah saw it." (Jer. 3:6, 7) Similar passages include Jer. 3:19, 20; Isa. 5:1-4. b)God ask questions in frustration. The LORD said to Moses, "How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them? (Num. 14:11) Similarly passages include 1 Kings 22:20, Hos. 8:5. c)God expresses regret. The most famous example: And the LORD was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart.(Gen. 6:6) Similar passages include 1 Sam. 13:13, 1 Sam. 15:11,35. d)Things do not happen as prophesied. E.g. in Acts 21:10-12 Paul is warned by Agabus what will happen if he goes to Jerusalem, but what is prophesied does not happen. The most famous example is Jonah. Another example is 1 Sam. 23:10-12 where David asks what will happen, the Lord tells him, and David takes action to prevent that from happening (and is successful). e)God discovers things. E.g. in Gen. 2:19 it says So out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name.(Gen. 2:19) The word translated "see" means "discover." Similar passages include Gen. 22 and Deut. where God tests to see what will happen. f)God sets out the future in terms of maybe. For example, when Moses expressed distress at seeing Pharaoh and asked what he should do, God said to do such and such, and that maybe Pharaoh would listen to him. If not, he could try something else. These are just a few examples. Many more could be given. The simple point is that God presents Himself throughout Scripture as acting in time, over and over again. He does not present the future as something that "happened." This a Greek idea, which came about by Greek idealism, beginning with Plato and his contemporaries and then taken up by Augustine and his followers. It's not a Hebrew idea, as is readily seen by noting how God expresses Himself in Scripture.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
[Re: Tom]
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02/21/07 05:09 PM
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Then the LORD said to me in the days of Josiah the king, "Have you seen what faithless Israel did? She went up on every high hill and under every green tree, and she was a harlot there.
I thought, 'After she has done all these things she will return to Me'; but she did not return, and her treacherous sister Judah saw it." (Jer. 3:6, 7)
What translation did you use for Jer. 3:6-7??? Here is how it reads in the KJV:
Jer. 3:6 The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot.
7 And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
The KJV is very different in the sense you are presenting it from whatever translation you have used.
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Re: What is the Truth About The Foreknowledge of God?
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02/21/07 05:40 PM
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I used the New American Standard Bible. The Revised Standard has the following: And I thought, 'After she has done all this she will return to me'; but she did not return, and her false sister Judah saw it. The NIV has: I thought that after she had done all this she would return to me but she did not, and her unfaithful sister Judah saw it. The English Standard Version has: And I thought, 'After she has done all this she will return to me,' but she did not return, and her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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