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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: Johann] #94129
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What did Jesus mean when he wanted all his followers to be diciples? The answer to this question becomes especially interesting from those people who may think that the word and perhaps even the concept is a theological mayfly.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: vastergotland] #94147
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 Originally Posted By: västergötland
What did Jesus mean when he wanted all his followers to be diciples? The answer to this question becomes especially interesting from those people who may think that the word and perhaps even the concept is a theological mayfly.


So you don't think it is just a theological jargon? What is it then?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: Johann] #94148
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I think it is a word that atempts to capture the essence of what it means in daily life to "take up ones cross and follow Jesus, having counted the cost and found the price acceptable in relation to the immence worth of the hidden treasure". I think it is a word that is synonymous to being an apprentice of God. I think it is propably a word that describes the people we read about in the missionary story every week in church.


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21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: vastergotland] #94164
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Jesus said you need to hate your father, mother, wife, etc. in order to be a disciple?

How could Jesus make such a statement?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: Johann] #94165
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In Icelandic the lessons are called "Apostleship". Is apostleship and discipleship actually the same?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: Johann] #94166
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Are we called to be disciples, or do we volunteer?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: Johann] #94167
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What kind of a relationship is essential to be a disciple?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: Johann] #94170
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 Originally Posted By: Johann
Jesus said you need to hate your father, mother, wife, etc. in order to be a disciple?

How could Jesus make such a statement?

The way that it is worded in the Good News Bible answers that question:
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Luke 14:25 Once when large crowds of people were going along with Jesus, he turned and said to them,
26 "Those who come to me cannot be my disciples unless they love me more than they love father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and themselves as well.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: Daryl] #94171
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We are called to be disciples, and only after we have been called can we respond.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Lesson Study # 1 - An Overview of DISCIPLESHIP [Re: Daryl] #94191
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My simple understanding is that a disciple is one who follows - is disciplined - by his teacher. In old times, there were many teachers who had disciples. The disciples of Christ were eventually called Christians.


By God's grace,
Arnold

There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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